Wilder’s résumé is aging like a fine wine

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  1. UniversalPart

    UniversalPart Boxing Junkie Full Member

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  2. NEETzschean

    NEETzschean Well-Known Member banned Full Member

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    Indeed, scary KO.
     
  3. red corner

    red corner Active Member banned Full Member

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    Looking at Wilder's resume he was always the young or fresh guy, picking on the elderly. Ortiz ( his best win ) was over 40! Areloa was 35, when he was 30, Stiverene was 39 when he was 32, etc... Nearly every name win for him ( If you call these big wins ) was vs an old has been who's really never beat anyone.

    Vingar comes to mind. His resume is full of it. Let see how he does at 36-37 vs. a younger man in the mix who isn't washed out. He'll addd to his resume of defeats.
     
  4. Absolutely!

    Absolutely! Fabulous, darling! Full Member

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    This thread is aging like Thunderbird.
     
  5. NEETzschean

    NEETzschean Well-Known Member banned Full Member

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    Ortiz 39, Ortiz 40.66, Stiverne 36, Duhaupas 34.5, Szpilka 27, Washington 35, Arreola 35.5

    Best wins: Jennings KO7, Martin KO6, Arreola KO6, Helenius KO6, Wach UD12, Helenius KO8, McCline KO4

    Wlad 41, Povetkin 39, Whyte 27.5, Ruiz 30, Parker 26, Pulev 39.5, Takam 37

    Best wins: Haye UD12, Takam KO10, Chisora KO11, Joshua KO7, Takam UD12, Chisora UD12, Thompson UD12

    Ruiz's best win is Joshua KO7 but his 2nd is probably struggling with 40+ retired Arreola and going 12 rounds. Joshua's victims have better wins (if you include Ruiz's demolition of Joshua himself, which is very dubious) but Wilder's victims were more dangerous, hence the 86% KO ratio to the 43% of the Joshua victims (or 29%, if you exclude Joshua KO7)

    Breazeale is the 8th best opponent beaten for both men so that's where I cut the comparison off. Of their 7 best wins, only 2 of Wilder's were 37+, while 4 of Joshua's were. Objectively it's AJ who likes to fight older opponents, preferably smaller and lighter punching ones.

    If Joshua had fought Wilder's 45 opponents he'd have 5 losses by now. Fury would have beaten him 3 times and Ortiz/Stiverne would have got him once or twice. Someone else (maybe Duhaupas) could have got him too.
     
  6. Grinder

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    ......left in the Sahara desert.
     
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  7. ikrasevic

    ikrasevic Who is ready to suffer for Christ (the truth)? Full Member

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    My argument about Wilder’s eighth title defense (against Fury 1) is: “If you beat me, why were you on the floor twice?”.
     
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    Clear thought is not your strong point La...
     
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  9. It's Ovah

    It's Ovah I am very feel me good. Full Member

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    I've never learned to skimread posts the way I do Neet's.

    So many words. So little to say.
     
  10. Wizbit1013

    Wizbit1013 Drama go, and don't come back Full Member

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    Exactly that

    Guy reads far too much in to two people punching each other

    To the point where its laughable
     
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  11. hobby rider

    hobby rider Well-Known Member Full Member

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    You could look at those figures and easily say only one of wilders opponents was younger than 34 yet 3 of Joshua’s were under that age.

    I’ve never seen a poster twist figures to suit a narrative as much.
     
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  12. vast

    vast Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Ageing like MD 20/20.
     
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    Vegan Beast Grandpappy Ortiz Full Member

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  14. JDub

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    Oh dear, I've seen pond life less stupid than this post.
     
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  15. NEETzschean

    NEETzschean Well-Known Member banned Full Member

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    So stupid that no one can actually refute it, you just cry about how it's not true or something.