This narrative always amuses me. Hunter got off to a good start for around 4 rounds. He was gassed before the half way point and was knocked down. His knockdown was not counted, which robbed Povetkin of the victory in the finish up. Even old Povetkin beat Hunter. Hunter is ridiculously overrated. James Ali Bashir about 2 years ago kept saying that he was going to take over the division. Absolutely laughable. Hughie Fury would beat Hunter.
H. Fury - Wallin would be an interesting fight but I just can't see him beating Wilder. Helenius and Ortiz aren't worth mentioning.
I originally scored it 7- 5 Hunter then watching it back scored it 8-4 Hunter. Which at the time most people on this forum were scoring it.
I can't see Hughie not beating Wildwr. Hughie is the most similar to Tyson in style out anyone else in the HW divison. The exception of Tyson lays on people using his weight to drain them. Whilst Hughie has much better defence and chin than Tyson. Wilder would struggle even more to land that right he telegraph's from a mile away.
You love to bring up the fact that Tyson Fury is not as fleet of foot as he once was, yet you ignore the fact that this is the same for Hughie Fury. You're completely evading the fact that Hughie Fury has not demonstrated that he can rise to the occasion. I had him beating Paint Dry handily, but he did so by running away and tapping Paint Dry. He was hit a lot of times by Wach. Of course, he wouldn't approach the Wilder bout in the same way, but he's nowhere near as agile as he once was and he has been ridiculed for years for being negative, so he would have to take some chances against Wilder. Wilder would absolutely pulverise him.
The hype of Hunter was always bizarre considering that Usyk schooled and battered him in his backyard, with only hometown bias preventing a stoppage in the 12th. Then at heavyweight (he probably moved up to avoid other top cruisers) he beat Bakole and Kuzmin: decent wins but still two plodders who haven't looked all that impressive against journeymen. He follows that up with a draw against 40+ Povetkin, displaying poor stamina and power and blatantly ducks a green Hrgovic, before fighting three journeymen for the next couple of years and getting a gift draw against one of them. He's recently been talking about moving down to bridgerweight. That's his whole career in a nutshell at almost 34.
They're not absolute but they're not meaningless either. If fighter A beats fighter B and fighter B beats fighter C then fighter A probably beats fighter C. Some problems with the Hughie-Povetkin-Hunter triangle is that Povetkin (who had been in decline for several years) was several months older at 40+ with 12 rounds more wear and tear under his belt when he fought Hunter and Hughie was sub-25 (pre-prime) when he fought Povetkin while Hunter was 31.5 (prime). In the last 2.5 years Hughie has probably improved, while Hunter has seemingly regressed. And the Hughie-Povetkin fight was closer than it appeared on the cards.
I had Hunter beating Povetkin. Can't remember by how many rounds but remember I definitely thinking he won.
Granted it's an acquired taste. But his performances against Wach and Hammer were promising. I'd welcome any of the fights being suggested in this thread. Can't say I'm sold on Hunter, though, and certainly not with the form Hunter has been in and the opponents he's been making hard work of.