Is Floyd Mayweather the GOAT

I'm not smarter than anyone else. And I'm not trying to compel anyone into my line of thinking.

It's a subjective sport, no two people see it the same. Today we disagree on one fighter, tomorrow we agree on another.

But to go into detail about why I think I would place fighters a certain way, if a hypothetical series of fights get made and go the way I predict them to go? No point.

I've said my piece on how I view it now. I probably won't even agree with myself in a years time, so the thought of putting energy into compelling someone doesn't appeal to me.

Atleast when we used to debate Calzaghe/Hopkins/Toney/Jones/Erdei we were debating what had already been, not what may or may not be.

 

Not with SRR's legacy. Armstrong and Duran are also arguable.

 

No.

An argument for top 20, but stretching it for top 10.

Way too many ducks, catchweights, home town referees / decisions.

You can't turn boxing into a business as he stated and fight without risk but also claim great status. He counted the McGregor fight in his 50, and Connor is basically a male version of Ronda Rousey.

 

He's only the second best boxer of his generation. How could he be the GOAT?

 

Yeah when it comes to judging anything really, people should put emotions to one side and concentrate on facts and theory.

 

I think if the majority of fighters were truly honest, they would have their career be like Floyd's. I am certainly not a Floyd fan, but he made the most money, took the least punishment and finished undefeated. I'm confident that if Ali were alive and had the choice to either have Floyd's career or take the life altering beatings he took, he'd choose Floyd's career. Hard to have a GOAT in boxing because we don't all have the same criteria. I give a lot more weight to a fighter that fought other great fighters in their prime. To me Oscar's losses to Mosley are far greater than Cotto's win over a completely shot and basically parapellegic Sergio Martinez. I get that other people would say, "Well he lost both" but to me he was against an elite fighter at his peak (and on roids to boot) and ODH arguably won.

GOAT isn't a fact, it's an opinion.

 

That title belongs to Manny Pacquaio
- Ducked Prime PBF
- Ducked Random Drug Testing

 

Like most boxers would love Floyd's ability, instinct and fighting brain.

Very much an opinion yes.

 

Pretty sure he retired twice in the beginning once after his match with De La Hoya to avoid having to rematch him, also again after his victory against Ricky Hatton,

there was also times after that where on interviews he kept insinuating or suggesting that he will retire after every recent bout like the ones he had against Marquez and Mosley most likely to avoid more fighters as he was known for and around that time when Top Rank wanted to match him up against Margarito,

He finally landed with Showtime/Haymon where he was calmly allowed to avoid more fighters namely Pacquiao.

 

Ha Ha ...just as well ..

 

lmfao

 

Could make a case for him being GOAT at 130lbs. Not really beyond that, though.

 

Totally agree with this. And to go one step further, this is why I think the older generation fighters were just so much better on the average than today. They had to fight way more often on the average just to put food on the table. Didn't matter if they were sick, injured, had just fought last week, etc. They were kind of forced to be great, in a way.
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It's both a fact and an opinion. Someone could say he believes Jean Pascal is the GOAT, but that's factually wrong. That opinion is factually incorrect. Believing Floyd is the GOAT is another factually incorrect opinion.

 

No