Unpopular Opinion: Foreman would have KO'ed Ali if he kept the pace he did in the 1st round

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  1. Journeyman92

    Journeyman92 Out For Milk Full Member

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    You realize it's a copypasta from American Psycho. Did that really go over your head? :lol:

    "My name is Patrick Bateman. I’m 27 years old. I believe in taking care of myself and a balanced diet and rigorous exercise routine. In the morning if my face is a little puffy I’ll put on an ice pack while doing stomach crunches. I can do 1000 now. After I remove the ice pack I use a deep pore cleanser lotion. In the shower I use a water activated gel cleanser, then a honey almond body scrub, and on the face an exfoliating gel scrub. Then I apply an herb-mint facial mask which I leave on for 10 minutes while I prepare the rest of my routine. I always use an after shave lotion with little or no alcohol, because alcohol dries your face out and makes you look older. Then moisturizer, then an anti-aging eye balm followed by a final moisturizing protective lotion."
     
  2. swagdelfadeel

    swagdelfadeel Obsessed with Boxing

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    I didn't respond because I legitamitely felt bad for you when you asked McGrain to delete all your posts, and claim you were leaving for good, and didn't wanna kick you while you were down. My racist accusation was referring to you, trolling (by your own admission) a foreign poster's English, even after being told it wasn't his first language.
     
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  3. Journeyman92

    Journeyman92 Out For Milk Full Member

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    "Kick you while your down" :sisi1 Cute. That's it? That's what you consider "Glaring racism" because I accused him of using English his second language as an excuse for saying something dumb? You have to be about the biggest soy boy I have spoken to here. You may wanna consider TRT.
     
  4. swagdelfadeel

    swagdelfadeel Obsessed with Boxing

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    If your comments were so innocent, why did you apologize to the poster twice, then post a thread announcing your departure (lasting all of 1 day)?
     
  5. swagdelfadeel

    swagdelfadeel Obsessed with Boxing

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    I knew you were copying something but I didn't know to what extent seeing, as you used your real name. I presumed you were using your "real" age, as well but I was wrong. I am very confident that you are a teenager, trying to fit in with the big boys.
     
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  6. Journeyman92

    Journeyman92 Out For Milk Full Member

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    That is just sad.
     
  7. Journeyman92

    Journeyman92 Out For Milk Full Member

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    Um, It wasn't innocent at all I'm not claiming It was, I was being an assh0le on purpose lol. I was mocking him for a dumb statement because he was being arrogant about it, then I proceeded to being a bigger jerk for a cheap laugh. It is what it is. I felt bad though. That much is true. Stop trying to act like I'm denying being a jerk, I talk endless amount's of nonsense for a laugh on an internet forum, you being a primary source of my entertainment. there is no hidden agenda of all things if there was not ****ing racism or homophobia you soy boy. I come here to talk boxing when I am bored, laugh and learn. Ya done? :ohno
     
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  8. Bokaj

    Bokaj Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    How is this an unpopular opinion? It's more or less what Ali himself had to say about the fight.
     
  9. Bokaj

    Bokaj Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I wouldn't say Ali's speed and reflexes were gone, at least not during the early 70'. They weren't the same, but he was still a very fast fighter.

    I'm also kind of confounded as to why Ali's camp agreed to the small ring. They already knew it was going to be hot and humid - adding a small ring to that made it very difficult for the almost 33-year old Ali to move around, as the original game plan was.
     
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  10. Richard M Murrieta

    Richard M Murrieta Now Deceased 2/4/25 Full Member

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    You are right, the original fight plan was to stick and move. But Ali's stamina was not as it was in 1967, he laid on the ropes more often. George Foreman had plenty of time to prepare for the climate of Zaire but wasted his time walking around smug looking. Ali did prepare, his weight for this fight was 217 lbs.
     
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  11. Bokaj

    Bokaj Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I'm a bit surprised it wasn't lighter actually. In two of his previous three fights (the rematches with Norton and Frazier) he was 212 and moved better than in any other of his fights in the 70's.
     
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  12. Entaowed

    Entaowed Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    Ali said he was moving 2 not 3 steps for Foreman's one, combining that with a small, soft ring strongly favored a ring cutting slugger.
     
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  13. Flash24

    Flash24 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    But that's what great fighters do...... Find a way to win.
     
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  14. cross_trainer

    cross_trainer Liston was good, but no "Tire Iron" Jones Full Member

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    What do you see as the correct interpretation of the fight?
     
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  15. ThatOne

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    The small ring was a surprise. They agreed to a nineteen foot ring. How do you quantify peak? I'll try. Post exile Ali was 75% of what he was and lost about 5% per year.
     
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