Unpopular Opinion: Foreman would have KO'ed Ali if he kept the pace he did in the 1st round

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  1. Showstopper97

    Showstopper97 The Icon Full Member

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    He did, but they had no affect. Foreman was able to back Ali into corners, land hard body shots, land the occasional shot to the head & force Ali to fight at a faster pace than intended.

    I doubt it. If anything he'd have been the one to be stopped (probably in the mid rounds between 4-8).
     
  2. iceferg

    iceferg Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Not a chance he barely landed a glove Ali was making him hit fresh air.
     
  3. Bokaj

    Bokaj Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I don't think anyone here is going to object that much. But maybe there are no Ali fanatics here.

    Personally, I don't know if Foreman would have stopped Ali (probably not to be honest), but Ali clearly felt that it was too risky to try and I'm not going to second guess him.
     
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  4. Journeyman92

    Journeyman92 MONZON VS HAGLER 2025 Full Member

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    It wasn’t so much the vague narration it was describing a shot fighter. “Reflexes and accuracy gone” “stamina gone, legs gone” he had all four in spades for a long time after his exile… he never lost his accuracy or his stamina either, not until he should’ve retired anyway.
     
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  5. cross_trainer

    cross_trainer Liston was good, but no "Tire Iron" Jones Full Member

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    Oh. Huh. Yeah. Didn't notice that part.

    1974 Ali was certainly not a shot fighter. I agree. Guy was 32; not 42.
     
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  6. Journeyman92

    Journeyman92 MONZON VS HAGLER 2025 Full Member

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    All those things are true. Ali was clever and courageous never have I seen a greater will to win or someone who could just force everything he wanted to do to work. I’ve always been very, let’s say careful of Ali’s claims because the way he himself described the events just doesn’t match up at all with the fight we’ve all watched. He looked in control all night, set the tone right away he has even stated that Foreman wasn’t even one of his harder fights in later years.
     
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  7. swagdelfadeel

    swagdelfadeel Obsessed with Boxing

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    Is it?

    Let's see? By your own admission, you're an *******. You're immature. You're mellow dramatic as you've demonstrated time and time again. You have insults that reek of grade-school, you're on here 24/7 so I assume you don't have a job. And most telling of all, you get very combative when you see an opinion you disagree with, which is exactly what I used to do when I was your age.
     
  8. Journeyman92

    Journeyman92 MONZON VS HAGLER 2025 Full Member

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    Imagine referring to yourself as “A big boy” then writing all this and not realising you described yourself. What’s worse is you sent it. Lol please stop responding for your own dignity.
     
  9. Journeyman92

    Journeyman92 MONZON VS HAGLER 2025 Full Member

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    To be fair, his ugliest, flat footed performance against Oscar made him look like a paraplegic in terms of foot work. I still do not understand what was going on in his head. If you’ve seen the fight in the fifth he spends it pretty much just holding his hands up letting Oscar chop him up… even if you think Ali won that fight, that round was odd and so were quite a few subsequent ones.
     
  10. cross_trainer

    cross_trainer Liston was good, but no "Tire Iron" Jones Full Member

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    Total speculation, but I wonder whether Ali running through Quarry gave him a sense of false confidence. The early 70s guys were actually not a bad lot. Better than the 60s guys Ali had murderized in his prime, at least considered as a group. Plenty of Mildenbergers; not many Cleveland Williamses. When Ali hit the Quarry speedbump, his stylistic advantage and Quarry's cuttable skin gave him an easy win. So why not toy with Bonavena? Except Bonavena was a young, hungry, tough fighter. And his skin wasn't Cooper-strength. Oops.

    Anyway, just a thought.
     
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  11. swagdelfadeel

    swagdelfadeel Obsessed with Boxing

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    I rest my case.
     
  12. Journeyman92

    Journeyman92 MONZON VS HAGLER 2025 Full Member

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    Okay “Big boy” :rolleyes:
     
  13. swagdelfadeel

    swagdelfadeel Obsessed with Boxing

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    This just proves how stupid you are, that you never heard of the expression "hang with the big boys."

    Go make another goodbye thread or go running to McGrain and ask him to delete your profile along with all your comments again, you moronic twat.
     
  14. Journeyman92

    Journeyman92 MONZON VS HAGLER 2025 Full Member

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    I can feel your hairy palms sweating through the screen. :crybaby2: When you get your first girlfriend/boyfriend this stuff will probably matter a lot less to you “big boy”. Real question, are just gonna recycle the same desperate insults over and over again? Because, it’s getting stale.
     
  15. cross_trainer

    cross_trainer Liston was good, but no "Tire Iron" Jones Full Member

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    So, yeah...about Foreman. And Ali. Good fight, that.