the what fights did you watch today\scorecard thread.

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  1. Dynamicpuncher

    Dynamicpuncher Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    We pretty much had it the same, expect you had 9th round even. And scored 5th round 10-8, I think any score having Hearns winning by 4 to 2 points is pretty fair.
     
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  2. salsanchezfan

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    Miguel Lora W12 Daniel Zaragoza

    This was the fight that brought Lora the title in 1985. He's superbly talented, ornery, and bears a resemblance to Wilfredo Gomez in both appearance and demeanor. The difference is that Gomez's ring demeanor is that of a fighter that is bent on truly crushing you. Lora is more interested in looking slick and polished and wowing the crowd with his majesty. Here's my score:

    1. Even
    2. Lora
    3. Lora
    4. Lora, 10-8 (hard knockdown)
    5. Lora, 10-7 (2 knockdowns!)
    6. Zaragoza
    7. Zaragoza
    8. Lora
    9. Zaragoza
    10. Zaragoza
    11. Zaragoza
    12. Lora

    115-111 Lora.

    While Lora's skills and blend of offense with defense are very impressive, he irks me. After beating the tar out of Zaragoza in the 4th and 5th, causing three knockdowns along the way, he inexplicably did absolutely nothing in the sixth to follow up, leaving Zaragoza to get his legs back. Being a proud champion, Zaragoza rallies as best he can with his lesser tools and gradually works his way back into it. From the very beginning, Lora scored heavily with the right (standard fare against a southpaw) but tired badly at the midway point or something. No idea why, he wasn't expending THAT much energy.

    All credit to Zaragoza, who was essentially out of it on the cards before the bell for the sixth round, but he never stopped coming forward and throwing. Problem for him is that he is far slower than Lora, there to hit despite his solid fundamentals, and has almost no power.

    All in all, it had the feeling of Lora backing into a title he should have won six rounds earlier.
     
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  3. scartissue

    scartissue Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Denny Moyer v Teddy Wright I (NY rounds basis)

    Round 1: Wright
    Round 2: Moyer
    Round 3: Moyer
    Round 4: Wright
    Round 5: Moyer
    Round 6: Moyer
    Round 7: Moyer
    Round 8: Wright
    Round 9: Moyer
    Round 10: Moyer

    Total: 7-3 Moyer (actual scores: 5-4-1 and another 5-4-1 both for Wright and a 6-4 for Moyer for a split win for Wright)

    According to boxrec the UPI scored it for Moyer and 15 sportswriters were split down the middle on this fight. And it was a good tough contest by two guys who knew the worth of fighting out of the Garden on a nationally televised card. It meant if you put on a good show that you'd be asked back and they were, for an immediate rematch. I enjoyed the bout and felt the non-lethal punching Moyer did very well on beating Wright to the punch throughout the contest.
     
  4. scartissue

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    Spoiler Alert - If you're planning on watching Golovkin v Murata later today on replay then don't read this. I'm really loving this DAZN. Checked this out this morning in tremendous Hi-Def. Here we go....

    Gennady Golovkin v Ryota Murata (middleweight title)

    Round 1: 10-9 GGG
    Round 2: 10-10 Even
    Round 3: 10-9 Murata
    Round 4: 10-9 Murata
    Round 5: 10-9 Murata
    Round 6: 10-9 GGG
    Round 7: 10-9 GGG
    Round 8: 10-9 GGG
    Round 9: Golovkin drops and stops Murata

    Total through 8 completed rounds: 77-76 Golovkin (actual scores: 77-75, 78-74 and 79-73 all for Golovkin)

    Let me tell ya, this Murata kid gave GGG some anxious moments here. He exposed some real chinks in Golovkin's 40 year old armor, including to the body and with an uppercut. Don't get me wrong, GGG came in in incredible shape for his age and was his usual hard-banging self, which slowly chipped away at the resolve of Murata. But I questioned GGG's mobility as well during this fight. Now one might think, so what? What a great performance. Yeah, but they're really pushing for a 3rd fight with Canelo off of this performance. And looking at the whole chess board, I think that would be a mistake. As a fan of his, I'd rather see him quietly pack it in rather than take a thumping. But again, this was a good, entertaining fight, despite my musings on his future.
     
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  5. zadfrak

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  6. zadfrak

    zadfrak Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Had just watched this fight myself on Thursday.

    Leonard had that X factor like Ali and the judges would give him rounds automatically. Hard to beat a top notch fighter when an opponent has to win like 8 rounds to 4 to get a draw from the 3 guys scoring the fight.

    But Hearns won the fight. How in the world could a judge have Leonard winning the fight? He is either incompetant or bought and paid for.
     
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  7. salsanchezfan

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    By way of recommendation, just watched Sung-Kil Moon W Tech. Decision 9 Nana Konadu.

    Excellent fight, jacked up scoring. Here's what I had.

    1. Moon (10-8; odd score, 2 KD's for Moon, one for Konadu).
    2. Konadu
    3. Moon (10-8)
    4. Konadu (10-8)
    5. Moon
    6. Konadu
    7. Konadu
    8. Konadu
    9. Konadu

    85-83 Konadu at the time of the stoppage due to accidental cuts on Moon.

    As the bout went on, Konadu gained focus and sharpness despite a completely shut right eye. Massive courage and endurance shown there. Moon conversely started like a house on fire and then wilted a bit, his attack losing steam and purpose. He suffered a cut on the side of the right eye early, then a worse one above the left eyebrow just to the side of his nose. It bled all over.

    I got a bad feeling about Konadu's chances when after the seventh round, which featured excellent footwork and ring generalship on the part of Konadu and found him battering Moon with shots nearly the entire three minutes, all the Korean broadcast wanted to show in highlights between rounds was the one shot Moon landed in the middle of all that Konadu domination. You got a sick feeling knowing it was coming. Sure enough, Moon gets the nod in a fight stopped just as Konadu was showing permanent dominance. Disgusting. They sure took care of Moon that day. Honestly, had it been allowed to go the full distance they'd still have found a way to screw Konadu so what can you do.....
     
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  8. salsanchezfan

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    Manuel Medina W12 Troy Dorsey

    By recommendation. Some engine on Medina. Holy cow, it was non-stop punching. Despite the huge amount of punches thrown it was actually a fairly simple fight to judge. Dorsey dominated the first three rounds and scraped by in the fourth, but after all that it was all Medina. This is remarkable considering the two knockdowns early. Dorsey wasn't known for big power but he had his straight right honed in on Medina's chin early, and landed with authority.

    As happened with Dorsey here and there however, his form left him a little bit once he started to tire. After Medina started in earnest, Dorsey's output slowed and soon the points deficit was reduced. His eyes also opened up, and by the end his face was a mask of blood from cuts over both eyes. Here's my score.....

    1. Dorsey
    2. Dorsey, 10-8
    3. Dorsey, 10-8
    4. Dorsey
    5. Medina
    6. Medina
    7. Medina
    8. Medina
    9. Medina
    10. Medina
    11. Medina
    12. Medina

    114-112 Medina.
     
  9. George Crowcroft

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    In fairness, Moon battered him in the rematch.

    Konadu was always a very good fighter, and quite underrated. The guy was a huge puncher, but his real issue was wasting his time with nobodies. He never regrouped after these losses until years later where he enjoyed a nice little Indian summer. He fllatlined an early career Sahaprom and changed how he fought forever.
     
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  10. salsanchezfan

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    I'd only ever seen him against Tapia before. Need to look at more of his.
     
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  11. George Crowcroft

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    He was a huge puncher, had a damn good jab, was huge for 115 and very fast in his prime. He was brilliant against an old Roman, and was involved in some really unique style match-ups with an aged Daorung Chuwatana. He looked his age against Tapia and retired shortly after, but yeah, he's an interesting guy to watch.

    Top five puncher in super fly history IMO. Arguably second hardest after Galaxy, although I'd probably say Donaire and Inoue hit harder.
     
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  12. George Crowcroft

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    God, I'm such a ****ing nerd :lol:
     
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  13. salsanchezfan

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    Aren't we all.....
     
  14. Dynamicpuncher

    Dynamicpuncher Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Michael Spinks vs Luis Rodriguez

    1 Even 10-10
    2 Spinks
    3 Spinks
    4 Spinks
    5 Spinks
    6 Spinks

    60-55 Spinks

    I really enjoyed this fight alot of action, it was Spinks's 2nd pro fight. But Rodriguez was a game as they come. Rodriguez really tested Spinks in the first 4 rounds, anytime Spinks would land, Rodriguez would fire back. And at times even managed to get Spinks on the ropes and wail away.

    The last 2 rounds Rodriguez took a pounding, but my god what a chin this guy has. I've never seen anyone get hit so frequently by Spinks and still be standing, what bravery shown by Rodriguez and I'm glad he managed to go the distance he deserved it.

    Overall it was really refreshing, to see a great fighter like Spinks get tested so early on his career. Rodriguez wasn't just there to pad Spinks's record, he came to win and all the respect in the world to Rodriguez, for giving Spinks a tough fight and showing his toughness.

    Lastly quick note Jerry Quarry was commentating, and I didn't mind him as a commentator personally.
     
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  15. Journeyman92

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    You had it not a lot different to me. I need to look for my card. I thought the same thing as you checking my journal had it continued it was a secure win for Kon. As far as I could see he'd seen as much as Moon had to offer Sung was getting predictable and Kon was putting his shots everywhere Moon thought he was safe before he even got there. God was that boy made of iron. I had Sung marginally ahead from memory at the time of the stoppage. Great fight.