AJ’s résumé has aged like an egg sandwich

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  1. Loudon

    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

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    More fantasy drivel.

    Stiverne wouldn’t have smashed/schooled Ruiz, and he would have had a zero chance of beating AJ.
     
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  2. Wizbit1013

    Wizbit1013 Drama go, and don't come back Full Member

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    His isn't

    He is genuinely a fool
     
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  3. WhataRock

    WhataRock Loyal Member Full Member

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    I've been seeing this thread pop up the last couple of day and I finally did it.. I made myself an egg sandwich.
    Absolutely delicious.
     
  4. Loudon

    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

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    I’d have backed Wilder to have beaten AJ.

    I’m not even an AJ fan. (I think he’s shown heart though)

    However, this guy has got serious issues.

    We’ve had 2 threads now where he must have spent hours on Boxrec spinning the stats in order to satisfy his needs.
     
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  5. Loudon

    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

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    Give it up man.


    Yes, Ruiz knocked AJ down.

    It happens.

    AJ then immediately took the rematch.


    Usyk is not a CW.

    He’s a former CW who has now beaten Chisora and AJ, and he’s an incredible talent.

    More gifted than 95% of Wilder’s opposition.


    WTF has Wilder ever done?

    He’s lost 3 times to Fury, with his best win being against Ortiz.


    Then what?

    Fighting twice per year against mainly low level guys.

    Oh great, he made 10 defences of the WBC belt.

    Again, against who?


    A historic trilogy against a great fighter in Fury?

    Great.


    1. There should never have been a trilogy.

    2. He lost all of the fights.

    3. You want to take points away from AJ for losing, yet when Wilder loses, you instead want to AWARD him points due to a gallant effort.


    Ha! No bias there then.
     
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  6. ikrasevic

    ikrasevic Who is ready to suffer for Christ (the truth)? Full Member

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    I blame AJ for not fighting for the unification of titles against Wilder, at a time when both were undefeated.
    He lost boxing with that, we fans lost, and I don't understand who profited from not having that fight.
     
  7. markclow

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    AJ has flaws (dont we all) but I pick him to beat Fury if they ever fight. I don't buy the Fury hype and I think Whyte has a chance.

    Fury talks a good game but when you follow his actions & don't listen to his constant BS, his opposition pales when compared to AJ's.

    And thats what you should judge a boxer by.
     
  8. Mitch87

    Mitch87 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    AJ beaten 6 fighters with better records than any of Wilders opponents.
     
  9. NEETzschean

    NEETzschean Well-Known Member banned Full Member

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    ???

    If you think they pull the odds out of their a*se, try to beat them on a consistent basis. Hearn sold guys like Martin, Takam and Parker to the public as "top opponents" but they were really fringe outsiders, just like Arreola, Washington and Szpilka. Yes AJ got destroyed by Ruiz but that didn't make Ruiz a world beater, it made him a one hit wonder (until proven otherwise) who exposed a vulnerable belt holder.
     
  10. NEETzschean

    NEETzschean Well-Known Member banned Full Member

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    "Prime Stiverne would have had a zero chance of beating AJ"

    You're clearly oblivious to how foolish you sound. Post-Ruiz it's obvious that any big puncher (which Ruiz isn't even) with skills, determination and a hard chin is dangerous for AJ:

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    Stiverne > Ruiz

    Beat Helenius and Price in the amateurs, didn’t lose to Mike Wilson

    Taller, longer arms, far less obese, far bigger puncher and had a backfoot game

    Beat prime Arreola x2, didn’t go life and death with the 40 year old retired version

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  11. NEETzschean

    NEETzschean Well-Known Member banned Full Member

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    I doubt they will ever fight because AJ can't stop getting schooled and battered by these wide underdogs.
     
  12. NEETzschean

    NEETzschean Well-Known Member banned Full Member

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    "Yes, Ruiz knocked AJ down.

    It happens."

    That's a nice way to gloss over the most humiliating defeat in boxing history to a light punching, sub-6', morbidly obese late sub 25/1 underdog with no impressive wins before or since.

    "Usyk is not a CW"

    Usyk is a career cruiserweight who decided to try his luck at HW, as many have before him. But no elite SHW had ever been dominated by a cruiserweight prior to Usyk dominating AJ in his backyard, which is what makes Usyk's accomplishment so exceptional. Conversely, it makes AJ look bad as he is the only elite SHW thus far to drop the ball like that.

    "Oh great, he made 10 defences of the WBC belt"

    Tyson, Lewis and Vitali didn't make 10 consecutive defences; they either lost to "journeymen", "fringe contenders" (that's how many of their opponents were described back then) or they retired. Wlad is the only HW in the last 35+ years to make more but even he was TKO'd by Puritty, Sanders and Brewster after 45 fights. AJ was destroyed by Ruiz. So clearly it's not easy to make 10 defences even against this calibre of opposition. If you have serious vulnerabilities, this level of opposition has proven able to expose them time and time again.

    "He lost all of the fights"

    You may not like it but Wilder got a draw in the first fight, that's just a fact. Many disagreed with the verdict but had the fight been stopped as soon as Fury hit the canvas for the 2nd time, few would have complained. Punch stats were 84-71 for Fury, Wilder scored 2 KD's. Even if Wilder lost the fight in your opinion there is no universe where it's comparable to the Ruiz or Usyk losses. If AJ did as well as that in a fight against Fury it would be his best career performance.

    "You instead want to AWARD him points due to a gallant effort"

    Of course. Going down swinging in the 11th and scoring 2 KD's in one of the all time great HW fights against the No.1 ranked heavyweight champion gets you more points than quitting in the corner after being dropped 4 times by a 25-1 fringe contender.
     
  13. Loudon

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    You’re the foolish one.


    By all means, start two threads:


    1. AJ vs Stiverne.


    2. Who’s the better fighter between Ruiz and Stiverne?


    You won’t get the answers which you seek.
     
  14. Loudon

    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

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    Ruiz went life and death with Arreola?

    Really?

    Ha!

    You’re too much.
     
  15. Loudon

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    He’s been battered and schooled LESS than Wilder.

    Wilder is contemplating retirement.

    If only that suit wasn’t as heavy, huh?