Eubank/Benn/Watson/Collins

what a load of ****. People still can't handle what Collins did to the British fighters .

 

Very harsh on Herol.

You know how unlucky he was.

Eubank was great, but he never fought prime versions of McCallum and Kalambay like Herol did.

Herol was world class when he was fighting mentally and physically at full capacity.

 

In London it wouldn’t of sold-out probably. Maybe Birmingham with Rob McCracken on the undercard then

 

He fought who’d face him, and that wasn’t McCallum. That was Benn. And he won. Eubank thought McCallum was an easy win earlier in 1990 - in hindsight I’m sure he now doesn’t believe that!

Herol had his opportunity to stop Jackson with a two-handed attack, like Eubank did Benn, but used just his lead right hand with his left down at his waist and wham…..over. Eubank took his opportunity with both hands.

 

There’s no way he could have believed that a fight with Mike would have been easy.

Eubank deserves huge credit for what he did. But Herol fought the better technical fighters.

Herol was just desperately unlucky not to have won a belt.

 

At the McCallum-Collins fight in Boston, Eubank told Ron Borges he’d beat McCallum in five rounds and Collins in two!

He went to Bob Arum there and said he’d beat them both on the same night lol.

 

He was young and brash. Benn humbled him

 

Well I don’t know, Kalambay beat him fair and square. Yes Herol adopted the wrong tactics to please Eastwood but whatever, he lost clearly (to a total unknown). That messed up the chance he’d been waiting so long for. (I’m positive he would’ve beaten Barkley for the vacant title.)

 

I agree I remember watching it on YT, Collins acted like a right tit.

 

That's the first time I have ever seen you be anything other than nice to people, DP. Shows what a wally Collins was.

Yes. When he was bragging how hard he was, how he still fell off horses and just got back on and the way he tried to demean Calzaghe (who, in a very calm way, was having none of it) it was totally out of kilter with the genial vibe that Johnny Nelson and the others were creating. He just came across as bitter and unpleasant.

He was an okay to good boxer but he benefited from being there when both Eubank and Benn had nearly killed a man and both had lost their edge. Benn had also lost to Malinga and was clearly a spent force post-McLellan. Eubank could still show immense courage and take punishment, but his offensive instincts had died off post-Watson.

Collins was in an excellent position to earn big money taking on what was left of either man but I don't think he would have beaten either man before the respective tragedies. Their names and their charisma made him a lot of money because he hadn't got a lot of charisma of his own.

Quite frankly, he should shake Eubank warmly by the hand and thank him every time he sees him because I don't think people would ever talk about him, nor would he have got the Benn fights, without piggybacking on Eubank's career.

And what prime Roy Jones Jr would have done with him doesn't bear thinking about.

 

You know one thing that stood out to me when i watched it, it was something Eubank said about Roy Jones Jr.

If I remember rightly, he said he would never beat a prime Roy Jones. And that he was happy being one of the best, but was fine with not being the best. Love him or hate him but I thought that was a nice honest comment from Eubank.

And for me all the fighters there, were very humble and respectful to eachother. Apart from Collins who came across as arrogant and bitter, I didn't like his whole persona. And at the end when he walked out it came off as childish honestly, he certainly didn't cover himself in glory with that behaviour.

 

Yes and Ince is Nigel Benn`s cousin.

 

Collins is bitter which was why he said he still wanted to fight Jones.

 

Eubank is referring to potential permanent damage being sustained when very physically dynamic world champions face each other (ie Benn-McClellan) rather than contenders.

 

‘Be the best, just not the best of the best, because that is a suicide mission. I was a world champion in my own right, just like Toney and Jones were.’