Canelo-Golovkin 3 - Is 168 at 40 too much for GGG?

For opponents other than Alvarez @ 168? Probably not. But the respective capability arcs of GGG and Canelo were on reciprocal courses from day 1. The time to match em up is past if competition is your aim.

 

Will eatxh later Rummy.
Yes you can make case for both.

Bit moot imo,Canelo wins regardless.

 

I don't expect Golovkin being still able to win at this age.

Sure, he can and probably would still be very competitive, but I can't see him doing better as making it a close fight, and everyone knows who wins if it's even remotely close.
Maybe Gloveking can push for a knockout. Maybe land the perfect punch like JMM landed on Pac, as you mentioned Rums. But JMM had like 30% wider shoulders and back since their previous encounter, so don't think that's a releveant comparison.

The real question is, is this going to be broadcasted on the almost 7 years old "relatively new streaming app, known as Dazzun"?

 

The only silver lining in this matchup for Golovkin with the fight being at 168 is that
Canelo is currently campaigning at 175, & might be adversely affected cutting 7 lbs of muscle to make weight in 4 months time.

he has done it before when he fought kovalev.
& then boiled down to 168 & unified all the belts to become the undisputed champ.

However it’s not an advisable practice to bounce up & down the weight classes in general especially past 30.

All that said I do expect GGG to be slower at 168… he is 40 - unless he juices to add 8 lbs of lean mass , battling Nelo at his peak in a weight class he has never fought before will have him
At a disadvantage even with out The judges factoring in on it.

Stll possible for him to upset the apple cart
See Márquez vs Paquiao 4

great video Rummy.

 

I think it will probably help him to not cut that extra 8 pounds especially at 40 years of age. That said it wont help him against Canelo.

 

Won’t matter much, he has been on decline since before fight 1 and while he managed to win both fights so far, this one will end badly. Too old, too slow.

 

GGG looked pretty gaunt at 160 against Murata.

I think the 168 might be ok for him.

 

I don't expect GGG to come in much heavier than he did Saturday actually. He looked significantly bigger than before so must have been at least 175 in the ring. He looked slow with that bulk, even though age undoubtedly played its part, so I can't see any benefit in getting bigger.

His feet and reflexes looked way too slow to deal with Canelo, though. Murata was hurting him to the body and that will be a breeze compared to what Canelo will do. GGG must improve a lot on this performance to have a chance, and it seems doubtful he will since the one thing he can't do is become younger.

 

My gut says that the time to beat Canelo has passed for him. The facts on the paper and on film suggest that he's lost too much speed and that Canelo has swollen up with muscle into his 175 lb frame.

However I believe that GGG has a gameplan for Canelo, and that it does not involve boxing at range or boxing off the backfoot. I think Golovkin's own more massive musculature reflects his intention to go at canelo straight on. I think his approach against Murata with short left hooks, upper and over-cuts (his reverse uppercut) and mixing it up to the body and head reflects his gameplan for Canelo - to rob Canelo of his explosive counterpunching and to force Canelo to fight head to head at a pace he doesn't like until all his valves blow out.

Canelo has always had an iffy gas tank and he's always been better early rather than late. His bum knee probably doesn't allow him as much cardio as he'd like and I think Golovkin is going to try force the battle of the Somme on Canelo. GGG is one of the guys that thinks there is nobody tougher or harder hitting than him around and I think he's going to forego his speed based technical boxing for a fight to the death in a shell hole.

 

Great video. Like you said styles make fights, and Canelo can't walk through GGG like his recent opponents. However that doesn't mean GGG can beat Canelo at this stage. So if GGG wants the 3rd fight just for legacy or money than so be it, but his chances on getting the win are slim.

Another way to look at this 3rd matchup...Is what if Bivol beats Canelo! GGG is not going to go fight Bivol at 175lbs, so he should simply forget the Canelo rubber match and go after the young guns in 160.

 

I agree entirely, and to add to that he's being held to an unreachable standard. He took a little damage against Murata who is good and looked a little flat fighting on the road in Japan.

I'm just hoping it doesn't look ridiculous or sad, make it competitive however it turns out.

 

They said this, but would they really turn down all the money and the chance to instantly rebuild Canelo?

 

Great video as usual.

I know for a fact it's a lot easier to gain 8 pounds than to lose 7 pounds, especially as Canelo will be CUTTING weight to get down to 175. Personally I don't see the weight as an issue.

The issue is that GGG is past his prime (by 3 years) and Canelo is in his prime.

It's been proven beyond a shadow of a doubt that GGG cannot win a decision over Canelo, so how could he KO or TKO him when Alvarez has never been close to being knocked out, or even knocked down?

Chance of a GGG win is 5% or less based on my algorithms.

 

The changing of divisions constantly and moving up and down in weight will hurt Canelo at some point but probably not untill his mid to late 30's (if he even fights that long)

GGG footwork looks a little slower, when he gets hit there is sometimes a reaction. He's a veteran war horse now. Still got a good engine and power but the speed his gone. He looked slow V Canelo in fight 1 and 2 and I can only see it being worse now.