Rewatching Canelo vs Golovkin 1 rbr

Your 9-3 is what I originally scored it, with a swing round somewhere, opening the possibility of 8-4, if I remember.

Motivated by your thread, I rewatched round 1 ( I don't have time to rewatch the whole thing ATM).

The robbery was not as bad as Pac-Bradley 1, nor Lennox - Evander 1, but it was on the Oscar-Tito level.

 

But clearly GGG won that fight...

 

116-112 Golovkin. Now i see your pattern and you most likely give Canelo an extra round so 115-113 Golovkin.. "Lufcrazy".

 

Make sure you use the 10 point must system to score. Otherwise your score I bull****.

Clean punching
Defense
Effective aggression
Ring Generalship

 

Rounds 1-4 Canelo
Rounds 5-9 Golovkin
Rounds 10-12 Canelo

7-5 Canelo

Granted some of those Rounds were very close and I can accept any score with a solid argument between 8-4 for Canelo, 7-5 Golovkin and 6-6.

 

The best man that night was Canelo. Your argument that GGG won is based on things like "GGG outworked Canelo", "GGG backed Canelo up", etc. You're not focusing on the quality of the landed punches, which is critical to scoring a prizefight. I get the emotional attachment to GGG and needing to defend the popular view that it was a robbery, but this is largely due to a feeling that GGG was entitled to winning rounds because he was working harder than Canelo.

The reality is that Canelo made fighting GGG look easy. Sure he gassed a bit in the middle rounds and let GGG into the fight but this was a performance that really opened peoples eyes to how great Canelo was. Nobody thought Canelo could hang in there with GGG, land the kinds of shots he landed on the G man without getting hurt. And it was all due to the strategy of fighting off the back foot and usng GGG's aggression against him. GGG thought he could just walk down Canelo and he was in for a rude awakening that night.

GGG outworked Canelo in a good amount of rounds, but he wasn't landing more clean punches than Canelo. Canelo was slipping blocking and countering most of the shots GGG threw. The puches that Canelo landed on GGG were more meaningful and that's why he outperformed GGG on the night. I do appreciate that you admit that you can surely find 6 rounds to give to Canelo, with your 3 or 4 swing rounds. But you're also not counting other swing rounds like 4, 5 and 6 each of which were super close and could be scored either way. And round 1 of course was pretty much a toss up, with neither man landing much but again the few shots that were landed were better from Canelo, and the ring generalship that round was better from Canelo which is part of the scoring criteria. Canelo set the pace at which the fight would be fought in that 1st round and it was GGG who needed several rounds to adjust to that movement and pace before he landed any significant punches.

So with round 1, plus some split of rounds 4, 5 and 6 to Canelo, you go from possibly 6 rounds to Canelo to more like 7 or 8 rounds Canelo. I know that's hard for you to go there because you've already established that you had GGG winning, but that's an accurate reflection of what happened. So yes, GGG outworked Canelo, and there's a tendency to score close rounds to the guy coming forward and throwing / landing more punches, but Canelo was landing the better punches in almost all of the rounds despite throwing fewer punches. The higher efficiency and effectiveness from Canelo was very apparent which is why it was such a legendary performance.

 

Without a doubt.

 

Wrong. Canelo landed the better cleaner punches. GGG outworked and threw more punches than Canelo, but he also missed a lot more and was out skilled and outclassed. GGG learned more in that match than in any match in his career. It was a very new experience for GGG to be in there with such a high level operator like Canelo.

 

Canelo fans on here often sound exactly the same as Scientologists or other cults, same as some of the climate conspiracy lot on those threads.

I suppose after they’ve spent the last few years on here slavishly defending and trying to stop criticism adding balance and nuance, it’s hard to admit defeat...ha ha ha there insane....

 

Well I'm glad you've finally come to your senses and now realize that a draw is an acceptable result. Just understand that for some of us it didn't take 5 years to come to that realization. That was very apparent on the night, you must have been under some kind of delusion for the last 5 years for you to deny how close it was until now.

 

It's They're, 3 eyes. Make sure your glasses are clean.