Errol Spence is top 10 h2h at welterweight

H2h to whom?

 

Anyone like who?
Give me some names.

 

No.
Name me some good names you would favor Spence against.

 

No.

The man in my avatar never even had a world title to his name (though he quite arguably should've), and he would've boxed and punched the ears off Spence.

 

I take it you didnt score it for Gavilan then?

 

So you’re not favouring him over Sugar Rays, Hearns, Duran, Sweet Pea, Benitez, FMJ, Trinidad, Paul Williams, Quartey, Forest, Donald Curry, Napoles, Gavilan, Basilio and of course Terence Crawford along with others.

How the hell is he top10 exactly?

Not to mention, It’s very much debatable whether he’d be favoured over the prime versions of Pac, Oscar and Mosley.

 

Well, I think your earlier words pretty much refute that contention.

Not exactly what you want going up against 2009 Pac.


That said, I think Spence is the best welter at this point.

It would help my case though, if he made the fight with Bud and beat him clearly.

Anyway, I don't think I would bet much on Spence beating the best versions of any of the following. He might fit somewhere in the second 10, h2h.


Floyd
Pac
SRL
Hearns
Duran
Oscar
SRR
Gavilan
Napoles
Griffith

 

You've sort of put yourself in it here.

 

There's not much point in continuing this discussion if you're not a serious poster, dude.

Ugas fought a 42 year old Pac in 2021, a good 12 years past the prime 2009 version.

And neither Bradley nor Horn came close to beating Pac, regardless of how the judges scored those fights.
If you had those kinds of dodgy judges, sure, Spence could well get a decision over Pac.

But not the 2009 version because judges would not have been needed.

Yes, and he was too small for Margarito and Cotto as well.

I expect he WILL beat Bud, and I wouldn't be surprised if he does it inside the distance.
But while Bud is a top welter today, his resume is hardly sterling. A victory over Bud settles the question of who is top dog in the here and now. It's not sufficient tp catapult Errol into top ten all-time.

Sparring is very different from fighting.

Best version of Leonard ends this before the halfway mark.

Did I ask if you were serious ?

Duran too small ?

Iran Barkley might have a laugh at that idea.

Oscar was faster, had a better chin, and hit harder. There's no category where Spence is better. He would be a clear underdog there.

That's generous.

 

What do you think and why?