Fighters you study

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by RJJFan, Apr 19, 2022.

  1. RJJFan

    RJJFan Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

    Joined:
    Sep 5, 2010
    Messages:
    14,002
    Likes Received:
    6,964
    I'm binge watching Roman Gonzalez fights now. Beautiful transition from defense to offence and timing. I have a build similar to him so he's brilliant for me.

    This content is protected
     
    The G-Man likes this.
  2. CST80

    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum Staff Member

    Joined:
    Nov 23, 2013
    Messages:
    243,238
    Likes Received:
    237,286
    Pretty much every one I watch. Which is hundreds.
     
    Reinhardt and uranage like this.
  3. Brighton bomber

    Brighton bomber Loyal Member Full Member

    Joined:
    Apr 4, 2005
    Messages:
    31,272
    Likes Received:
    29,414
    Whenever I watch a fight I try and study a fighter. I initially look at their foot work, then I see if they counter punch at all, then I study their defence, do they move their head or rely on a high guard due to lack of head movement. Can they fight at different ranges, what do they do with the lead hand, do they clinch and control opponent physically by framing. Then I look at things like how they set up shots, the combinations they use and why.

    Last real deep dive I did on a fighter was JMM. I never really understood how he did so well against Pac and so many others. I personally don't think he has a very aesthetic style, he's not the fastest, not the hardest puncher and defensively he does get hit more than you would expect from a fighter labelled a technician. But having rewatched many of his fights, repeatedly I can now see why he's so damn good. He's really gone up in my estimation as a fighter. He has so many subtle skills that I'm sure more knowledgeable boxing fans on here saw early on but for me it took me this long to realise just how clever a fighter he was.
     
  4. Robney

    Robney ᴻᴼ ᴸᴼᴻᴳᴲᴿ ᴲ۷ᴵᴸ Full Member

    Joined:
    Jan 18, 2010
    Messages:
    92,964
    Likes Received:
    27,707
    None.

    Basically that it takes up too much time I don't have, and at the end it hardly matters to me anymore.
    I like to discuss styles and outcomes of potential fights, but I never go in depth anymore. Boxing just burned me too many times to get really invested like I used to.
     
    Nonito Smoak and The G-Man like this.
  5. The G-Man

    The G-Man I'm more of a vet. banned Full Member

    Joined:
    Jul 24, 2020
    Messages:
    6,108
    Likes Received:
    4,017
    Very well pointed out.

    I would suggest a background check on him aswell and see what amateur experience does he have as this will impact his eagerness and balance at first glance.
    Certain patterns are very important aswell ie gets hit constsntly by the same punch,makes the same mistake,is predictable in hosnoffense,falls in love with his power too much,staminaissues etc.
     
  6. Young Terror

    Young Terror ★ Griselda ★ Full Member

    Joined:
    May 9, 2012
    Messages:
    7,476
    Likes Received:
    7,264
    I dont study fighters i get my knowledge from Mark Ant´s threads.
     
  7. heerko koois

    heerko koois Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

    Joined:
    Apr 26, 2006
    Messages:
    24,040
    Likes Received:
    17,522
    this..
     
    Young Terror likes this.
  8. Rollin

    Rollin Boxing Addict Full Member

    Joined:
    Nov 17, 2021
    Messages:
    4,156
    Likes Received:
    6,623
    Analyze? Most if not all. Truly study, as in watch them in 0.25 over and over again to understand and write their system down? Archie Moore, George Foreman, Sandy Saddler.

    Jersey Joe Walcott, Joe Louis, Floyd Patterson, and Ken Norton are up there as well. Hagler, Rigondeaux, Locche (feint game and offense in particular) and Robinson from the lower weights.
     
    The G-Man likes this.
  9. panchman69

    panchman69 Boxing Addict Full Member

    Joined:
    Sep 10, 2012
    Messages:
    3,105
    Likes Received:
    1,881
    Rocky balboa
     
    The G-Man likes this.
  10. KO KIDD

    KO KIDD Loyal Member Full Member

    Joined:
    Oct 5, 2009
    Messages:
    30,167
    Likes Received:
    5,734
    I dont analyze like i used. I dont watch as much as used to either

    The guys i study now are guys i try to emulate in the gym. Mostly basic 1-2 boxers. Mikkel Kessler, Kelly Pavlik and Wlad Klitschko

    I also pepper in Ken Norton, Evander Holyfield, and Joe Frazier
     
    Nonito Smoak likes this.
  11. The G-Man

    The G-Man I'm more of a vet. banned Full Member

    Joined:
    Jul 24, 2020
    Messages:
    6,108
    Likes Received:
    4,017
    plenty of options in Europe that fit that standard 1-2 straight up ear muffs type style.
     
    KO KIDD likes this.
  12. KernowWarrior

    KernowWarrior Bob Fitzsimmons much bigger brother. Full Member

    Joined:
    Jul 12, 2012
    Messages:
    3,135
    Likes Received:
    3,451
    "I have always adhered to two principles. The first one is to train hard and get in the best possible physical condition. The second is to forget all about the other fellow until you face him in the ring and the bell sounds for the fight".- Rocky Marciano

    So no studying opponents for Rocky and he did ok.

    I like Rockys philosophy, he honed the things in his control namely his body and his fight style, that which he had no control over he dealt with on fight night with a little help from his trainer Charley Goldman, all 5'1 of him.
     
  13. Nonito Smoak

    Nonito Smoak Ioka>Lomo, sorry my dudes Full Member

    Joined:
    Sep 8, 2010
    Messages:
    53,088
    Likes Received:
    6,685
    Kazuto Ioka, Paulie Malignaggi, Joe Louis

    Odd bunch, really...
     
  14. AlwaysFirst

    AlwaysFirst Well-Known Member Full Member

    Joined:
    Nov 28, 2015
    Messages:
    2,023
    Likes Received:
    1,606
    When I was fighting I used to have Trinidad’s fights on repeat, I have a heavy lefthook as well so studying him helped me knock some guys out. Holyfield was another one that I watched a lot and of course Tyson but that was when I was younger and fought in the amateurs out of rage ;)