Tyson Luke Fury vs. Dillian Whyte & Isaac Lowe vs. Nick Ball + Ekow Essuman vs. Darren Tetley RBR.

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  1. VG_Addict

    VG_Addict Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Did we really need 3 fights with Wilder?
     
  2. CST80

    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum Staff Member

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    A little more food for thought, as to why I think Whyte might pull the upset. Because... styles.

    Wlad is a counter puncher, with a devastating straight right and nasty as hell left hook. So you've got to force him out of his comfort zone, into being the aggressor. Cause him to overshoot with the right, and counter him constantly, which keeps him apprehensive. Stay out of his grill and away from that left hook at all costs. Well... that's what Fury did.

    Wilder is a one two artist, and a one trick pony, now... that one trick is pretty ****ing brutal. But Wilder can't fight on the inside, he needs distance so he can set up and land that right of his, from range. What do you do, you get in close and smother it, work him over on the inside, where he can't get proper extension on it. Eventually he'll tire and go down. Well... that's what Fury did.

    2 pretty easy riddles to solve.

    Now... what does Whyte have going for him? Well, he's a Jack Of All Trades, but a master of none. Meaning, he's pretty goddamn versatile, and keeps his opponents on their toes. Think about it,, he's an adequate pressure fighter, he walks fighters down behind his jab, constantly whipping nasty left hooks to the body, eventually the head opens up, and his opponents eats a few nasty combos to the head and fall. But wait, he's also a damn solid inside fighter, hell... he does some of his finest work there, his punch selection, ability to land shots from crazy angles is impressive. He also has a decent backfoot game, he loves luring fighters in and setting traps for them, especially catching people with that vicious left hook of his, so getting in close or pulling out, you risk paying a heavy price. So, when you think about it, what does Whyte do really poorly? Nothing. What does he do great? Nothing. But he does everything pretty good, and has no issue making adjustments many times per round. So when you take into consideration that his straight right, right cross, horrific left hook up top, his left and right hooks to the body, his counter uppercuts from all angles, to the body and head, are all pretty damn good and has his hands are deceptively fast. He's going to have Fury off kilter and thinking non stop.... all night.

    So... tell me I'm wrong.:D

    Will Fury catch him with something early and put him down, maybe, will Fury school him, maybe. But could Whyte beat him due to those reasons I laid out. Yes,.
     
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  3. navigator

    navigator "Billy Graham? He's my man." banned Full Member

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    He tried to escape the rematch clause. What more can you ask?
     
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  4. It's Ovah

    It's Ovah I am very feel me good. Full Member

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    I like this pick. I'm rolling with it.
     
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  5. Thunderstorm

    Thunderstorm Active Member Full Member

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    Shyte cannot beat Fury under any circumstances
     
  6. Dannymita

    Dannymita Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Either fury points of late stoppage .... probably going fury 7-9
     
  7. It's Ovah

    It's Ovah I am very feel me good. Full Member

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    I wouldn't say Whyte is as well-rounded as you say, but he's certainly a lot more versatile than many credit him as being.

    What does Whyte do well? I think his jab game is one of the best in the division right now. It's vicious, consistent and rhythm disrupting. His counter shots to the body are generally excellent and deter fighters trying to come into his zone. He generally keeps his calm in a fight except when he has a man hurt (see below) and doesn't get discouraged by adversity. He can both box at range and slug it out in close, and frequently does so multiple times in a fight. His defence and parrying are, generally, pretty good.

    What does Whyte do badly? He can't finish guys well that he has hurt. He gets too wild and reckless and loses all semblance of form, a lot like Wilder. Look at the Rivas fight where he hurt Oscar in the second. Completely lost his composure and let Rivas off the hook. Did a similar thing with Joshua, though you could argue how relevant that is to today's version. He also can't fight effectively off the backfoot. He doesn't have the agility or lightness of foot to do so. He can counter well, but he often puts too much mustard on his left and tightens it up too much in anticipation of a fighter coming into his wheelhouse which, if he misses, means he throws himself completely off balance. That makes him vulnerable to feints from Fury. He's also prone to weird defensive lapses at times, and the uppercut is a real weak spot for him.

    I'll say that he'll actually match Fury jab for jab in this fight, and will likely mix it up to body and head the way Wilder did early on. But at some point Fury will begin to work the angles and off-rhythm shots to start getting at Whyte, and then stepping up the pressure. At that point Whyte's game will start to fall apart and he'll begin to get pummelled as he's put into situations he isn't comfortable in. That, ironically, might be his best chance at doing some damage on a rampaging Fury, though I can see the right hand, not the left, being his money punch here.
     
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  8. MrBarry465

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    He was contractually obliged to have the third fight and it was an amazing trilogy in the end anyway...
     
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  9. Komaster

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    Timestamped round thre Fury vs Wallin. I know he's a southpaw, but Wallin was able to get inside but not allow himself to get tied up, on account on not being a midget armed guy like Chisora, but having a bit of reach himself. Whyte will need to get into this range, using odd angles and half steps , off beat timing. Wallin did pretty well this round and Fury didnt look too comfortable in there at times. Imagine Whyte landing something of note from the positions Wallin found himself in many times this round. When Wallin backed off onto the back foot, Fury looked completely at ease.

    Whyte isn't the slowest mover either so he will find himself in firing range and IMO wouldn't be surprised if Fury is put down once or twice.

    I stick with my prediction that Whyte tires after mixed success, and Fury wins via TKO9, his jab and straight rights, and uppercuts when Whyte moves into range causing Whyte's undoing ..along with effective jabbing.

    I also like Wallin staying wayyy ut of range when he goes to conserve some energy after his assaults, not taking or gloving jabs from fury, which always looks like your on the wrong end of some ring generalship.
     
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  10. Special one

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    'Let's goooooo. Its showtime The fight starts nowww' ( in about 5 hours from now)

    First time in a long time I'm torn on who I want yo win. I usually love an underdog, and I do feel Dillian has deserved a shot at a world title for a long time. But then Fury has grown on me these last few years and he's been way more entertaining in the ting under Sugar Hill. Tbh I'm just looking forward to what I anticipate will be a back and forth fight. I see Fury as the favourite but think Whyte will show he is better than most people believe him to be. Not sure it will go the full distance but feel that round 9 or 10 is when the Victor will prevail. May the best man born from his mother win.

    Ps if Whyte knocks Fury out does this mean Wilder's power was always just a myth!?

    Pps: Am also intreagued to see who's in attendance, talk of Wilder, Joshua, Usyk at ringside and then if Haye is commentating or not!! Lol
     
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  11. Col Mortimer

    Col Mortimer The question isn't indiscreet.The answer could be Full Member

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    I wonder how many pages this RBR will do?.

    It's 4 in already and there's still approx 5 hrs to go.
     
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  12. Komaster

    Komaster **** All Computers Full Member

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    I think it'll be a big one...will it beat Usyk/Joshua (doubtful), or one of the Wilder/Furys?
     
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  13. Col Mortimer

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    I think it'll be in the mix with the Fury/Wilder fights for sure.

    Lol, The Usyk/AJ RBR will take some beating I imagine. That fight was HUGE.
     
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  14. ArseBandit

    ArseBandit Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Wilder forced the third fight. Fury was trying to fight Joshua. Hardly his fault.
     
  15. Safin

    Safin Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    Whyte a pressure fighter who walks opponents down behind a jab? That is a horrible observation from someone who sees themselves as a boxing expert.
     
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