Errol Spence is top 10 h2h at welterweight

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  1. MarkusFlorez99

    MarkusFlorez99 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    While i don't agree with the OP, people are saying Crawford will end Spence, but i don't see it happening. Maybe he does, but i see Crawford struggling with the size and physical strength of Spence. Based on the eye test alonee i would favor Crawford but i do think the bodyshots from Spence will affect the direction of the fight greatly


    If Crawford wins it'll be a come from behind stoppage
     
  2. Glass City Cobra

    Glass City Cobra H2H Burger King

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    Yeah, he kept running into stuff recklessly. That's why Marquez knocked him out
     
  3. Glass City Cobra

    Glass City Cobra H2H Burger King

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    It would be if there weren't so many logic fallacies and inaccuracies.
     
  4. Dannymita

    Dannymita Boxing Addict Full Member

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    And for the few things I don't agree with in there I feel most of it is a fantastic post that I find myself agreeing with alot of ...the ren I named earlier are ten I thought would beat Spence...and you don't see them all that way ..which is fair enough....but I genuinely got no idea on what planet you think Spence beats Leonard,Duran n Pacquiao....

    Spence for all that talent is relatively unproven
     
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  5. George Crowcroft

    George Crowcroft Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I don't have to resort to "haha you're younger than me so your opinion doesn't matter" to come up with a counter argument.

    Glass is bitter coz I saw through his bull****.
     
  6. Glass City Cobra

    Glass City Cobra H2H Burger King

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    That was one sentence in my post and the only reason I said it was because I corrected you on your dumbass straw man where you claimed I said millions of people watched Gavilan fight. That's not what I said. I brought up your age because you were acting as if you had seen his whole career pan out and could safely make bold emphatic statements about the h2h chances of fighters with very little footage.

    By all means, continue using straw man arguments to avoid actually addressing anything I wrote. Like I said, tons of logic fallacies and inaccuracies.
     
  7. MarkusFlorez99

    MarkusFlorez99 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    You mean like he was a much faster Shawn Porter ? You know the guy who ran Spence close ? Lol

    Even thats doing a disservice to Pacquiao
     
  8. scandcb

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    Had Spence shared the same era as Leonard and Duran or Mayweather and Pac then these threads certainly wouldn't exist.

    His aura will be shot to bits once Crawford beats him.
     
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  9. Glass City Cobra

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    No I mean how he ran into Marquez's right hand and got brutally KOd. Pac had very leaky defense until he had to learn his lesson the hard way.
     
  10. MarkusFlorez99

    MarkusFlorez99 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    So them why didn't Keith Thurman, Timothy Bradly and Cotto knock him out ?

    Spence does not have the blitzing counter punching of Marquez. He's elite, but not as good as you believe him to be. He would have his hands full with the likes of Shane Mosley and Marcos Maidana let alone Manny Pacquiao and Felix Trinidad
     
  11. Glass City Cobra

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    Bradley is feather fisted, Thurman was no longer the same guy (his power has fizzled out and hasn't gone for a KO in years), Cotto was drained and got his ass beat.

    None of them have the heavy handed power, size, and reach of Spence. Spence would also be extremely dangerous with his southpaw stance, the worst thing to do against a southpaw with a powerful straight left hand is constantly bounce in and out right to them.l rushing them with linear attacks.

    Depends on which version of Mosley. He wins a wide UD against Maidana, the guy was outclassed by Devin Alexander and couldn't beat Khan.
     
  12. MarkusFlorez99

    MarkusFlorez99 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    "Cotto got his ass beat" very good observation. Pacquiao never had issues with come forward fighters. The same thing could happen to Spence if he fought a prime Pacquiao. And it was the lighting counter right that Marquez knocked Pacquiao out with. Spence does not fight like this. He doesn't law back and counter. Marquez's style gave Pacquiao trouble for years. Spence is a relentless, powerful, but slow machine. Pacquiao in his prime would be teeing off on him. He could quite literally be blitzing Spence in spots although Spence has a good chin and would take it well
     
  13. Glass City Cobra

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    The fact you're writing Spence off as a simple come forward fighter tells me you clearly haven't watched enough of his fights. He did not beat Mikey or Danny by being a come forward fighter. He has many options. He can bust Pac up with his heavy jab at mid range. He doesn't need to come forward at all, Pac would be doing that himself willingly which would just increase Spence's chances.

    Spence isn't a speed demon but he isn't slow. Your assessment is way off the mark thinking he's just some big slow power puncher.
     
  14. Manfred

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    People that think Spence can't box should watch the Peterson fight.
     
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  15. MarkusFlorez99

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    We all saw the Mikey Garcia fight. Pacquiao is dimensions above Garcia. Is Spence going to try and outbox a speed demon in Pacquiao ? He went life and death with a pressuring Porter Lol. Spence methodically breaks his opponents down and can box going backwards but Pacquiao would be too quick. Spence would be beaten to the punch, and would have to deal with an agressor with twice the handspeed and angular movement of Shawn Porter, Not to say it's an easy night for Pacquiao but Spence doesn't have the quick counter right that Marquez had.

    You see Spence either manhandling Pacquiao or boxing and countering Pacquiao. I see neither.

    Perhaps this upcoming Crawford fight will indeed show us if Spence is as good as you believe him to be, because if he's a top 10 H2H Welterweight, a division with an extremely deep history in world class and elite fighters, then Spence should at least dominate if not dispense of Bud