I think we have to separate Pre-Kronk and Kronk Fury

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  1. Mister Pugilist

    Mister Pugilist Active Member Full Member

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    Fury’s sloppiness in past fights before Sugarhill are due to him being massively talented (pun intended) but not being refined yet. Sugarhill refined him and unlocked his power by having him sit down more on his punches. He can now fight agressive or revert to his old days. Tyson Fury was reborn in Wilder vs. Fury II so it’s to hard to even go back to Wallin or other fights to criticize him
     
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  2. Kiwi_in_America

    Kiwi_in_America The Tuaminator Full Member

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    Tend to agree
    The Kronk method makes a bigger difference that I would have thought possible.
     
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  3. miniq

    miniq AJ IS A BODYBUILDING BUM Full Member

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    I don't care for this "kronk" Fury nonsense or any of that other jazz

    Get a fighter buzzed or hurt and you see what they are really made of, what their natural state is.

    & Fury's natural state is a mammoth who cannot be deterred. He will beat you in a physical mental fight to the death. Boxing goes out the window you have a 270 pound monster coming after you.
     
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  4. Quina74

    Quina74 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I think he's regressed. He looked good in Fury 2, since then he's looked sloppy and slow of foot.
     
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  5. George Crowcroft

    George Crowcroft He Who Saw The Deep Full Member

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    He's had four performances where he's actually looked good. Chisora II, Hammer, Klitschko, and Wilder II. Only one of them was "Kronk" Fury, although that is arguably his best performance of the bunch. Fury is definitely past his best now.
     
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  6. tinman

    tinman Loyal Member Full Member

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    He 33 which is around the age that a speed/reflexes starter starts to regress noticeably. Guys who are still dominating at age 33+ tend to rely on other attributes.
     
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  7. Jennifer Love Hewitt

    Jennifer Love Hewitt Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I think he seems more heavy on his feet, and I'm still not sold on him being a power puncher in the vein of Lennox Lewis or Wladimir Klitschko.
    I think he does sit down on the punches more, but he's more of a medium-hard puncher now rather than an actual one-shot punching powerhouse.
     
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  8. Dubblechin

    Dubblechin Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Good Lord.

    So we've gone from 30% Fury and 60% Fury, to post Wlad/coke head/cherry pick Fury, to Ben Davison Fury, to pre and post-Kronk Fury?

    I've never come across a more anal group of people in my life. Seriously.

    Should we add cis, he/him Fury, too? Or do we count Fury's gay walkout dancer before Wilder III as pre-cis Fury?

    Let's see: Wilder drew with pre-cis, pre-he/him, cherry pick, 30%, coke head, Ben Davison, pre-Kronk Fury.

    Did I include them all?

    Did I leave any labels out?
    :hang
     
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  9. George Crowcroft

    George Crowcroft He Who Saw The Deep Full Member

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    Wilder robbed pre-cis, pre-he/him, cherry pick, 30%, coke head, Ben Davison, pre-Kronk Fury, you mean.
     
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  10. lepinthehood

    lepinthehood When I'm drinking you leave me well alone banned Full Member

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    focused on big power and IQ than speed and movement atm.
     
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  11. Dubblechin

    Dubblechin Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    :beer-toast1:
     
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  12. Pepsi Dioxide

    Pepsi Dioxide Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Wilder 3 = recovered from covid Pandemic Medium Kronk Style Fury
     
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  13. Dubblechin

    Dubblechin Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Ah yes, I forgot post-Covid Fury.
     
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  14. FastLeft

    FastLeft Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I prefer transKronk pre-cum post-pandemic postmodernist Fury.
     
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  15. Finkel

    Finkel Boxing Addict Full Member

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    The new and improved Mythical Prime-Tyson [Fury]
     
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