Deontay Wilder In The 70s

My answer is “ very well.” Wilder may not be a master of the sweet science but he has a few strong attributes:
1. Extreme punching power in both hands
2. A fairly sturdy chin
3. Excellent physical conditioning
5. A lot of height
6. Plenty of heart and guts.

With those attributes he’d fair well in almost any era.

 

He would do about the same as Shavers. Some "almost" moments against the best, but, never good enough to win a belt. I am not sold on his chin, whatsoever. And, his conditioning in a hard fight is overrated as well. He was totally gassed after five rounds in both Fury 2 and 3. Luckily for Deontay, he mostly fought no hope fighters who were unwilling or unable to test Wilder's chin and conditioning.

 

Norton wouldn't have a chance in hell.

Could beat Frazier if he waits until he's old enough.

Matches up better than many admit against Foreman due to stamina, power, range and angles. Foreman's poor defense against right hands and limited stamina would make it a riskier fight than Lyle, which is at best pickem for Foreman.

Late 70s Ali takes a career ending beating.

Loses to Holmes unless he knocks him out.

He could do great with the right match maker.

 

Don't see why he couldn't beat Lyle, Shavers, Quarry, Chuvalo etc

 

He'd be a little taller version of Jeff Simms.
Though Simms was better skilled believe it
Or not.
I mean , Simms did have the ability to work
Off a jab. Slip and counter a little. Could fight
Past 5rds without looking like a drunken fisherman on a average sized fishing boat.....
...... During a hurricane.

 

This. However, I don't see him beating peak Foreman, Frazier, Holmes, or 1970 to 1975 Ali.

 

So a dude with natural talent and a great right, but virtually no technical or defensive ability.... Swap the person in question with Max Baer and you'll have the same answer.

 

Well, let's see, unlike Shavers, he doesn't lose to or fail to stop Bob Stallings, Stan Johnson, Brian Morgan, Ron Stander, Quick Tillis, Vicente Rondon, Walter Santemore, George Chaplin, Ali Haakim or Brian Yates ... so automatically, he does better than Shavers by 10 fights.

So, the answer, before you even get to name opponents, is yes, Wilder does better than Shavers.

Does Deontay Wilder beat the Muhammad Ali who faced Shavers in Madison Square Garden in September 1977? The Ali who was floored by Jimmy Ellis in sparring and had to go see a doctor before the fight to get approval? The Ali who was banned from fighting in Madison Square Garden ever again because he looked so bad that night? The Ali whose doctor quit after that fight in MSG because Ali wouldn't retire? The Muhammad Ali who lost five months later to "Neon" Leon Spinks?

I wouldn't doubt it.

Yes, Wilder does better than Shavers.

 

Wilder would be a serious threat in any era, he is a big and strong man and in previous eras he would be bigger than almost all opponents which would automatically make him dangerous to all opponents...

 

So that's his ceilling? Because Shavers was nothing special in his era.

 

The question was does he do better than Shavers. The answer is yes.

Does he beat Ali in 1977 at MSG, yes.

So he's the World Champion in the 1970s.

Shavers wasn't.

 

That's far from a given. He couldn't beat Fury who came out of retirement.

 

He's not very skilled, but despite that he might become champ in the mid 70s.
He certainly beats post 75 Ali, Leon Spinks, Shavers, Frazier.

 

Also he's pretty fast.