Deontay Wilder In The 70s

Baer did not hit as hard.

 

77 Ali gets beat by plenty of fighters. He was way slower and had lost a lot of mobility. Couple that with the mistakes he made due to not having proper fundamentals, and Ali is very vulnerable.

 

He does ok. I see a lot of toss ups.

Losses -- Loses to a not fully faded Ali. Loses to Holmes. Loses to Quarry. Trips over his own feet fighting Jimmy Young, ends up KO'ing himself.
Toss-ups -- Has a fight with Foreman that resembles Foreman-Lyle. Has a fight with Lyle that resembles Foreman-Lyle. Gets battered around by Frazier until he nearly removes Frazier's head with a lucky right. Frazier gets up, but put back down a few times.
Wins -- sends Norton home on a stretcher.

 

Doesn't mean Wilder is one of them though. Can't see Ali being stopped by one power shot and Wilder is extremely sloppy finisher.

 

How can you know that? You base it on 1930s footage, which usually runs at uncorrected speed?

You have no idea who punched harder between Baer, Shavers and Wilder.

 

If Wilder faces the Ali that Shavers faced, I'd bet my house he knocks him out.

 

Betting your house in a boxing match is one of the most stupid things you can ever do. Betting against Ali in boxing match is even worse than that...

 

To be fair, I'd confidently bet on Wilder against that Ali.

 

Fury most certainly doesn't hit any harder than peak Holmes. Wilder would get knocked silly by that overhand right of Larry's...

I'm not sold that Larry gets knocked down, either. Wilder was even more wild than Shavers, and Holmes only got knocked down once in 23 rounds against Earnie. Btw, Wilder ain't much better a finisher than Earnie, either.

 

Wilder is a better finisher than Earnie Shavers was.

Wilder stopped every man he faced over his 13-year pro career except Tyson Fury, and he had him down four times.

How on earth do people continue to say Wilder can't finish opponent when he finished ALL of his opponents except Fury, and came damn close to stopping him in their first fight and the third fights?

The list of people Shavers failed to stop in his pro career is a long one - from journeymen, to ranked contenders to absolute hillbilly nobodies.

Wilder's "failed to stop" list has one name on it ... the current world champ.

 

But Wilder never stopped anyone the caliber of Ken Norton...a Norton who'd just given prime Holmes the fight of his career. Can't say he stopped someone the level of a Jimmy Young or Ellis, either.

 

In that case, you must think far more highly of Baer's boxing skill than most of the forum does.

 

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