Do you believe Valdez about the cheating allegations?

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  1. UndergroundBoxing

    UndergroundBoxing Member Full Member

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    In the world we live in today most people always think the worst of others and the guys at the top so I expect most people to disbelieve Oscar Valdez but watching the Blood, Sweat & Tears episode 1 tonight I believe Valdez when he says he has no idea how the diuretic got in his body before his previous fight… You can see the guy is genuinely hurt that the fans and his idols think he’s a cheater. You wouldn’t react like that if you were guilty… Unless he’s a brilliant actor lol.

    I give him the benefit of the doubt with this one. And I’m super excited for the fight Saturday!
     
  2. RJJFan

    RJJFan Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Hey I had some Mexican herbal tea the other day and punched the bag off the chain and lost 25lbs. Just saying.
     
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  3. Dubblechin

    Dubblechin Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    The days of boxers claiming they had "no idea" they were taking banned substances is kind of over.

    The guy has been boxing for almost 20 years. He knows if he's taking something he's not supposed to.
     
  4. Quina74

    Quina74 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Valdez trained (trains) in the same gym as Canelo lol. This is the same gym where we saw Ryan Garcia look suspsicially stacked with unusual muscle definition (looked dry and more matured than previously). It's also where we saw Andy Ruiz cut weight showing off his absolutely shredded legs. Not to mention Reynoso was a butcher. There is nothing natural in that gym.

    PED use is rampant in boxing, I'd be shocked beyond belief if he wasn't doing PEDs.
     
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  5. George Crowcroft

    George Crowcroft He Who Saw The Deep Full Member

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    Don't forget Martinez popping dirty too.
     
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  6. lobk

    lobk Original ESB Member Full Member

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    Only a blind fan will believe that a Belt holding veteran decides to take an unknown herbal tea or tainted meat.
     
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  7. sasto

    sasto Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    There's a tiny shred of doubt because it's not unheard of for shady companies to taint a tea with phentermine, like those gas station dick pills Miller found to justify his usage.

    Even if he did somehow get betrayed by his favorite brand of weird bodega diet tea, I would have liked to hear him take more accountability because this is stuff he ought to know.
     
  8. MetalLicker

    MetalLicker I Am Full Member

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    If it was herbal tea, he would have produced the tea.

    Tell us the brand, where he got it and share a sample with a lab.

    If not, he's a liar and a cheat.
     
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  9. Quina74

    Quina74 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Oh yeah, forgot about that!
     
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  10. Jackstraw

    Jackstraw Mercy for me, justice for thee! Full Member

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    Tell me more about these gas station dick pills…asking for a friend :couch:
     
  11. Dubblechin

    Dubblechin Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    :campeon:
     
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  12. jaytxxl

    jaytxxl Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Especially when their trainer was a upper level butcher in Mexico.. Crazy part was that was the first time Canelo got drug tested in Mexico.. He usually starts camp in Mexico and then go to San Diego to finish so the question should have been why wasn’t he ever tested in Mexico before that..
     
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  13. Betyabeatyaup

    Betyabeatyaup Active Member Full Member

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    It’s a diuretic, even if intentional why would I or anyone even care? It’s not like he needs it to make weight, and it’s not like he’s a giant for the weight class.
    He’s not a bodybuilder or a jockey so in no way can it be called ‘cheating’.
     
  14. Origen of Pugilistica

    Origen of Pugilistica New Member banned Full Member

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    In all professional sports!
     
  15. acie2g

    acie2g Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    If he would have done what Canelo did which is have the commission re test him then I’d say while I wouldn’t blame anybody who bashed him he’s deserve a pass, but he didn’t and refused to take another test I believe so nah he’s likely a cheater and hopefully shakur does a demo on him