Shakur Stevenson calls Fury one of the greatest HWs and also thinks Fury beats Ali

Shakur is just telling it how it is

 

Real recognises real.

I look forward to Shakur 12-0’ing Valdez this weekend

 

Shakur cant name 10 HWs pre 2000.

 

If Fury knocks out (or totally outguns) Usyk then I may begin to consider that he can beat Ali.

All roads lead to Usyk Fury! Only detour at the moment is Usyk Joshua II.

 

And he's totally right.

Fury is for sure a Top 3 ATG. Personally i think he's the greatest ever. But i also like a few other names in the mix.

It isn't just the skillset. It's also the body composition.

Ali was great. One of the greatest. But he was 6'3'' and weighed between 195-210 pounds in his absolute prime (mid 60s).

Fury with a 60 pound weight advantage would have ragdolled Ali.

We also shouldn't compare those ATGs from another century with those guys in 2022.

There is a different level of athleticism etc. that dived into the sports for the past 10 years....different technical abilities to improve strength, speed etc....

It's just unfair.

 

HW that never beat any top guy in his prime is considered great ? How pathetic.

 

He must be out of his mind.

 

Fury EASILY beats Ali

Ali is only better in that he hit the ground running in his career against Liston

 

Nonsense.
Based on what exactly?
What because he's big and has some skill?
Fury like many in the current era is untested against elite opposition. Just going off how big someone is with some skills shows a lack of boxing knowlefge.
The only elite person he has fought is Vlad I don't class Wilder as he is completely untested against the best in the division.
His next best wins are Chisore and Whyte....just let that sink in against other ATG heavy resumes.
The thing is I like Fury a lot and followed him from the start of his career but the reality bending that a handfull of people do on here is demented. it really is deluded. T
he measure of being amongst the best is by fighting tall he best in a strong competeitive era. This isn't a strong era and the top guys haven't fought each other.
The fact some kid says he's the GOAT does not make it so. It's one opinion. It's no differeent when a lot of Americans were going on about Wilder before he got battered by Tyson. It's called hyperbole and that''s all it is.

 

Whoa come on now...slow down. Nobody beats Ali easily. Fury's strengths just happened to be Ali's strengths and Ali was better at most of them.

 

Nonsense. Ali was a great/the greatest HW in the 60s when he was in his prime and du eto his achievements he's considered as one of the ATGs which is fine to me but he would get murdered these days by average HWs. Thats my opinion. I don't care about your opinion at all and i wasn't really begging YOU to respond to my post.

You can't compare an elite boxer from the 60s even to an average guy in 2022.

The speed, strength, power and athleticism is on a different level. Most of those guys are on PEDs and other stuff. They would literally kill elite dudes from 40-50-60 yrs ago in a boxing fight. Albeit the HW division is poor these days a guy like Wilder for example would knock most of those elite dudes from the last century stiff. And Wilder is a bum skill-wise.

If you're a boxing romantic and you still think those guys like ALi would stand a chance ...fine...i don't care ...but pls don't quote me again with your romantic BS.

 

You are entitled to my opinion because it is informed unlike yours.
Ali would not get murdered by an "average" Heavyweight you complete spastic.
If you believe that then you should log off now.
Err they had PEDS in the 60's you clown. They fought for 15 rounds and there were less belts so being the best in any given division was the norm.
Yes there's a larger variety of PEDS now than 60 years ago. it's a moot point as they don't have a bearing on skill.
I would also argue that a fighter carrying more muscle than their frame would normally allow would not make them faster or have better endurance.
Also you can't get around the fact that Fury's resume is pretty thin and actually fought few few elite operators and in fact only fought one in Vlad. That is just a fact.
I'm not saying all the old timers beat the modern era. I'm saying it isn't as clear cut as saying the modern era is automatically better. that's complete bollocks and tells me you have followed the sport for a relatively short period of time and are not a student of the sweet science.

 

Saying something like that is grounds for taking a drug test