Errol Spence is top 10 h2h at welterweight

I never thought Duran gave Leonard any lesson, i watched the fight recently again i had Duran ahead by 1 point. That fight has got overblown for how dominant Duran actually was. The fight was actually very competitive and close, yes it was a good win for Duran. Not taking that away from him and he deserved to win a close fight. But when people "lesson" or "dominant" which i've seen a few times being branded around. That's overstating how dominant Duran was, Leonard was very competitive against Duran especially in the last 5 rounds in close quarters, at worst Leonard lost 9-6.

Not taking anything away from Duran, just it's a myth that Duran dominated Leonard. Kind of like how people say Nunn dominated Toney in every round up until the KO.

 

Of course I don't ... I also don't think Duran KILLED Leonard.

Duran won by one point when Leonard decided he wanted to go toe-to-toe with him after Duran called his wife a ***** and wanted to beat him at his own fight.

And when Leonard decided to box him in the rematch and not lay on the ropes, Duran quit out of frustration because he could do nothing.

Do you think Errol Spence would fight Duran toe-to-toe? I do not. Does Errol Spence lay on the ropes and stay there all night? No.

People thought Gonzales fought Duran close at welter, and Gonzales was a nobody.

Do you think Zeferino Gonzales was better than Errol Spence? If you stayed off the ropes against Duran, you tended to do just fine.

If you were a southpaw, you tended to do okay as well. I think the top southpaws he faced in his career were Hagler, Sims, Viruet (at welter) and Camacho (though that was when he was really old). He didn't exactly KILL them, either.

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He was still well past it. Nowhere near as good as before, so no sense in using the ugas fight to discredit him.

 

He was still well past it so i dont see why saying he went life and death with Ugas means much. You can compare the Pacquiao that ripped Cotto Apart to the one the was competitive against Thurman. 2 different fighters, and Thurman was 2 years before he fought Ugas. As an old fighter the decline gets quicker the older you are and he was also 2 years inactive against Ugas

 

[url]Pac gave Ugas a beating.[/url]

 

Heres your problem. Morales was at one time the WBC International Welterweight champion. [url]http://www.maurowbc.com/welterweight/[/url]

 

No he didn't, he lost

 

Winning fighters can take a beating as well.

Pacquiao-Marquez 4
Vazquez-Marquez Series
Castillo-Corrales
Miura-Bandeedo
Quigg-Valdez

 

Get out

 

Are you saying the winner of those matches didn't take beatings?

 

Ugas won. No more replies

 

Not disputing that. But are you seriously saying that in boxing the winner can never take a beating?