Errol Spence is top 10 h2h at welterweight

Thats your opinion. The Pacquiao that fought Cotto and De La Hoys would trash Thurman and lose no rounds. He wasn't more hittable. Also Pacquiao was 40 and significantly slower. Mayweather was a little past it as a welterweight but not that much against Canelo at 36. He looked no different from the Mayweather against Robert Guerrero

 

So I went off topic (but not really since you were talking about Pac-Ugas) — nonetheless, why then did you bother responding?

I'm not sure why Pac beating a on Ugas triggered you and had your sensitive vagina rupturing.

But you already acknowledged that the winner can take a beating, so you can now **** off like the little ho that you are.

 

No I did...it's talking about 2014 Pacquiao...the version that beat Rio's and Vargas.

You are holding Pacs losses against horn and ugas against him but saying the version that beat Thurman is the better version of Pacquiao?

The article is shite...and appears made to talk up Pacquiao v3.0 having the beat chance against Mayweather...when most people with eyes would favour Pacquiao 2.0 as the version that woulda been the one most likely to give Mayweather problems....win.. probably not...but best chance absolutely.

And ramrod jab.. durability and traps.....Spence struggled with porter...who while strong with a good workrate and durable ...isn't half the fighter of a peak pacman..like I said .your entitled to your opinion but...Jesus lol

I'd like to hear how Spence beats ray Leonard as well...he was my first pick to beat Spence...you have it as 50/50.....or what has convinced you that Spence can compete here ...

 

the fact is lol.

so many politicians on ESB.

 

You did exactly the same....you brought up Pac losing to horn and ugas... trying to set up your own triangle theory .except your using the worst welterweight version of Pacquiao

Otherwise you wouldn't have brought up Pacquiaos losses to them...it's dumb... because noone in their right mind would think that version of Manny...is the one that should be compared... You've said Spence is a top 10 all time head to head monster .

And people have been picking people they think would beat him. So if you think Spence is that monster that will beat most of welterweight history...you put him in with the best version of them in their welterweight history...you wouldn't put

Spence Vs the Pacquiao of the ugas fight
Spence Vs the de la Hoya of the Pacquiao fight
Etc

And if this wasn't what you meant..why bring up fights at the end of his career in the first place?

 

Ugas Won.

Pacquiao retired.

Mayweather 50-0

Juan Manuel Marquez KO6

Do these words trigger you ?

 

How many times are you going to move the goal posts? First it was Spence was better than every guy who beat Manny. Then it moved to they had to have been a welterweight. Now it’s they had to have been a welterweight when they fought Manny.

 

Goofy as sh*t LOL. Pacquiao was not better at 40 years old. You're pulling all the stops to try and prove that an ancient much slower Pacquiao with less gas tank was a superior fighter to the one that ripped Apart De La Hoya and Cotto

All of this just to support your ridiculous argument that Spence is top 10 H2H. De La Hoya in his prime certainly beats Spence, Hearns busts him up and stops him, Mayweather outboxes him in a competitive fight, Duran outworks and outskills him in the pocket, Leonard jabs his face off, Felix Trinidad KO's him, Ike Quarty beats Spence with the jab, Sugar Ray Robinson works him, Miguel Cotto dogs him, Shane Mosley overwelms him, prime Donald Curry picks him apart and might even stop him. Spence could end up being an ATG and H2H he's decent. But with a division as historically deep as welterweight i do wonder how you dont see the immense overrating of Spence in your posts

 

He was a welterweight when he fought cotto and clottey as well.... You know...the best version of Manny?

And yes Spence is better than horn and ugas.....who beat an old version of pac.... Do horn and ugas beat 2008 Pacquiao..do they fuk lol