Errol Spence is top 10 h2h at welterweight

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  1. Dannymita

    Dannymita Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Cotto while not a southpaw..was left handed..he had a great jab and he was definitely a great body puncher.

    And Spence hasn't beaten anyone as good as cotto.

    And using the Trinidad fight as proof Spence beats de la Hoya. ? Spence break down de la Hoya with bodyshots? ..no...he wouldn't...and Spence definitely hasn't fought anyone as good as de la Hoya lol

    Til Spence fights someone as good as half the people you mentioned you should probably sit back and look at some of video of the actual ww head to head monsters... Or in meantime start a Connor benn is the goat thread

    I look forward to coming back to this thread in 2030 and eating humble pie...... or returning sooner when it proves false
     
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  2. George Crowcroft

    George Crowcroft He Who Saw The Deep Full Member

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  3. Glass City Cobra

    Glass City Cobra H2H Burger King

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    He doesn't qualify because I was referring to manny at 147 and how he fares against other opponents at 147. I made that very clear from day 1 and you're the only numbskull who didn't get it. At this point you're arguing just to argue.
     
  4. Glass City Cobra

    Glass City Cobra H2H Burger King

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    So, in other words, nothing like Spence.
     
  5. Dannymita

    Dannymita Boxing Addict Full Member

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    You said he doesn't have a ramrod jab ..or a good body attack which was a really wank statement on your part wasn't it?
     
  6. Maidanas Gun Tattoo

    Maidanas Gun Tattoo Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Nope. Doesn’t work like that. His full career has to be considered because he was more than just a welterweight fighter. Thems the rules.
     
  7. Glass City Cobra

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    How he looks against other welterweights is all that matters when we are discussing who the best welterweights are.
     
  8. Glass City Cobra

    Glass City Cobra H2H Burger King

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    Well, no, Cottos jab and body attacks aren't as vicious as Spence's.
     
  9. Dannymita

    Dannymita Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Cotto a former welterweights jab and body attack were enough to wear down and stop the best version of Sergio Martinez...you know ..the 40 odd year old version.... Not the gung ho slickster who iced Paul Williams and battered Kelly pavlik...no cotto stopped the older more patient... absolutely mercurial... definitely not more shopworn version of Martinez...the middleweight king...and he did it with his jab and body attack. And Martinez was definitely better than anyone Spence fought.

    This is how this works right?
     
  10. George Crowcroft

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    :lol:
     
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  11. bandeedo

    bandeedo Loyal Member Full Member

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    theyre not. 2 completely different approaches to the same destination. cotto is much more measured and calculated. involves set ups and much practiced series of movements. hes a technician first. spence is perpetual motion, striking at any target you leave unprotected. half his game is the mental and physical pressure that creates. it saps strength and willpower from the opponent. spence doesnt measure his success by individual exchanges, those are just bricks hes using to build something bigger. thats why margo was so successful, he created the same problems for his opponents. the difference between spence and margo is that spence has the ability to be gone when you counter his attack.
     
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  12. Glass City Cobra

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    They're not. Spence broke guys down with brutal clubbing power. Cotto was more conservative in his approach and had a little more snap and speed in his shots.
     
  13. Glass City Cobra

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    If you think that was the best version of Martinez then you need to log out and go to rehab.
     
  14. Dannymita

    Dannymita Boxing Addict Full Member

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    No...this is definitely the best Martinez ..he did things so much better at 117 years old than he did when he took the title from pavlik....just like the Pacquiao who fought ugas was better than the Pacquiao that beat cotto...... The dreaded Manny with more patience and the better ****in jab lol

    N rehab...I think your off your tits for your opinion on Spence alone...some of your other opinions are that bad i thought you'd been watching boxing for about a fortnight
     
  15. Glass City Cobra

    Glass City Cobra H2H Burger King

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    I knew you were being sarcastic and played along to see where this is going. Once again, you idiots spent more time attacking a strawman argument I never made instead of just engaging in the discussion. I literally never said that the Pac who beat Ugas was better than the Pac who beat Cotto.

    You really shouldn't be talking trash or making sarcastic comments if you lack reading comprehension and don't even know what someone wrote. :lol: