Katie Taylor vs. Amanda Serrano & Jessie Vargas vs. Liam Mark Smith RBR.

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  1. ShovelHook

    ShovelHook Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    If dudes had this fight you'd be praising it, just stop. The first women's fight on this card is the type of fight you're talking about, a wild slugfest with **** all skill on display. This fight was a skillful back and forth war.
     
  2. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    How stupid do you think I am? Your Mr. Innocent act isn't washing one bit. You're hands down the most passive aggressive poster on this site. You're constantly trying to get a rise out of others, including CST, and it's not in a light-hearted or forum banter type of way and you know it isn't. The intent is to bait and antagonize to the maximum degree and the reason why you and a select few others bait him is because there's a bunch of you with an axe to grind against him who are playing a very transparent game of trying to undermine him and his position as a mod which is exactly what you're trying to achieve here and you know damn well you are.

    Is CST guilty of flying off the handle sometimes? Yes especially when you dogpile on him in RBR threads and try to bait him, but he's a widely liked and respected member of this forum and moderator and there's a lot of crap we have to put up with as mods that goes unseen by many because, duh, they're not having to constantly deal with it and it's not like he hasn't warned you plenty of times to stop antagonizing him.

    And FTR, questioning moderator decisions is a bannable offence and one which is strictly enforced on here and he could've by rights banned each and everyone of you who did so in this thread.

    I'm locking this thread until everyone calms down. If you have a complaint you can contact admin
     
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  3. CST80

    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum Staff Member

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    Not really. Most of you were just being extra sensitive for some reason. Fine, maybe I overreacted, but none of the insults were egregious, racial, horribly offensive or all that hurtful. They were surface level garden variety slights basically calling people who were disagreeing with me idiots. Also, it didn't help the people who were having a go at me, most of them have a bit of a history with me.
     
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  4. CST80

    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum Staff Member

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    Not a possibility, nor would I want it to be. I don't like hiding from people's opinions, I have a tendency to fight back against them. But you are right, I've gotten pretty good at letting their insults roll off my back, and ignoring people, I should've paid them no mind.
     
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  5. CST80

    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum Staff Member

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    They're deliberately being assholes. I have zero issue with anyone disagreeing with me in a civil fashion. As evidenced by me liking people's posts who disagreed in a calm, cool and collected manner. It was the aggressiveness of it that annoyed me. Many people are simply incapable of seeing someone else's perspective and devoid of empathy, that was another one of those annoying little subjective matches. There were a few dominant Serrano rounds and the rest were nip and tuck, and depending on what you prefer, I tend to prefer aggression and damaging blows. Fine maybe some like pitty pat counters. I can see that argument much of the time, but when the punch stats are almost even for every round, people have to make a judgement call. I made it one way, some made one the other, some were in the middle. Oh well.

    100% spot on, and for what it's worth, you and I, while never getting personal were brutal to each other in our disagreements, but we remained friends. This was kind and gentle compared to many of the wars that went on back in the day, and long before either of us officially joined the forum.

    Yes, I show bias, but as you said, I also try to do my best to explain my perspective, and why I thought the round went the way it went. Whereas most of the people who criticize me do not. Also, as you pointed out, not shockingly, they love my near spot on cards, when it's a fighter they like.
     
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  6. CST80

    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum Staff Member

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    Exactly, and all three official judges seemed to miss that entirely and gave the round to Taylor anyway. If that's not evidence of a bit of corruption, then those people are just in straight up denial. If a round is a back and forth war, with nearly equal punches landed, and it ends with one of them completely out of her feet done. That round can only go one way.

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  7. CST80

    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum Staff Member

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    I like you Noel, and yes... I was a bit out of line when I called you an old codger. So for that I apologize. You got hit with shrapnel meant for others. Although for what it's worth, I kind of meant it in a playful way with you, I don't deem old codger as some vicious insult, it's a silly one at best over here. But if it offended you, then I am sorry. That genuinely wasn't my intent.
     
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    ellerbe Loyal Member Full Member

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    Yeah I 100% get what you're coming from. I think the issue is when you post your scorecards your intent isn't to rile anyone up, you're just expressing what you're seeing. The posters in the thread are fine when it's wider than other people's cards when it's a fighter they like, but when you go against their fighter they start to act out and want to censor you in a way by aggressively attacking you in packs.

    And yeah, what was posted here isn't even close to what was said here back in the day in like 2016. I don't even think anything that was said really bothered you but like I mentioned above, more of the fact that you were getting attacked by multiple people because your view of how a fight went didn't align with theirs but they never had an issue with it when you were siding with fighters they liked.
     
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  9. OvidsExile

    OvidsExile At a minimum, a huckleberry over your persimmon. Full Member

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    So, I take it this was a good fight?
     
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    ellerbe Loyal Member Full Member

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    Lol maybe things have changed since I've been gone, but you definitely would not have gotten banned for anything you said back when I was active on this forum.
     
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  11. Chuck Norris

    Chuck Norris Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Round 1 - Taylor 10-9
    Round 2 - Taylor 10-9 Close
    Round 3 - Serrano 10-9
    Round 4 - Serrano 10-9 Close
    Round 5 - Serrano 10-9
    Round 6 - Serrano 10-9
    Round 7 - Serrano 10-9 Close
    Round 8 - Taylor 10-9
    Round 9 - Taylor 10-9
    Round 10 - Taylor 10-9

    95-95

    Pretty good fight. Taylor started out pretty well, faster on her feet and Serrano looked a bit out of her depth in terms of skills. Serrano managed to unleash some brutal punches in the 5th and overall just seemed to land the better shots throughout the fight. Taylor obviously showed tremendous heart to withstand the mid round beating and credit to her for it.

    I'm kinda surprised to see Taylor get the nod in America considering Serrano was the home town fighter and all. I feel like Serrano at least deserved a draw for her effort given that she landed the better shots in the fight.

    This may be an unpopular opinion, but am I the only one who didn't find the fight THAT amazing? It was pretty fun, but nothing extraordinary. Fights like: Taylor vs Persoon, Mayer vs Hamadouche & Estrada vs Esparza were better fights than the one we had last night IMO.
     
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  12. Chuck Norris

    Chuck Norris Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    For 20 minutes it's worth the watch.
     
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    ellerbe Loyal Member Full Member

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    I actually think Nonito is a decent poster but I do remember him being passive aggressive af. I chuckled a little when I read this post lol because it feels like you read right through him.
     
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  14. CST80

    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum Staff Member

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    Oh well, I thought and still do think you're a good poster, who brought something of value to the forum, nice to see you didn't appreciate that good will move from me in the least. Duly noted. Nice to see it took so little for you to launch the same kind of behavior towards me that you launched towards IB, that got you banned in the first place. The fact that you're still talking to me right now, disproves everything you're implying about me. So calm down with the Stalinism charges.

    As far as betraying me, no... that's not what I was getting at. It was just the aggressiveness of it. We've never really had a real disagreement or conflict. You usually agree with most of my scorecards, and never go out of your way to criticize, yet out of nowhere last night, you were hyper critical and overtly nasty. Like this was some pent up rage that's been boiling below the surface for months, and it struck me as odd. Since I've never had a cross word to say to you.

    You have a tendency to get really haughty yourself, and overreact to anything a moderator does that you deem authoritarian in nature. I'll chalk that up to youthful exuberance, and lingering teen angst and rebelliousness with you. Because you push back far too hard when a moderator criticizes you or does something you disagree with. Whether you like it or not, the moderators enforce the rules, you're a poster, this is a privilege and for you simply questioning one of our decisions, that could've gotten you a ban. So no, I was not throwing anything around. I deemed what Nonito did to be over the line and a little too aggressive, and yes, I do ban people for a night, if they come in extra hot, which is quite reasonable, because to me, it prevents things from escalating to the point of no return. As far as you go, I was already annoyed with you and f1ght3rz from earlier in the thread, bickering and derailing the thread for pages on end about goddamn round length. Of course neither of you took the hint or listened. So maybe that was lingering annoyance with you on my part. But still, rein in your overreactions and insults, especially when you're not fully aware of the back story.
     
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  15. CST80

    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum Staff Member

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    Yeah, exactly. Every word of this post is spot on. This was light hearted gentle faire in comparison to the full throated nuclear wars of the past. Nothing really pissed me off that bad, with the exception of the attempts to undermine the moderators, simply because they disagreed with my scorecard. It's okay to disagree and argue a point. Do that, but most of them made it personal in nature right out of the gate.
     
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