MTK Cease to exist

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  1. LeavemealoneKoooogs

    LeavemealoneKoooogs LeTs rUn iT bAcK Full Member

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    Third paragraph is so true. No matter your mood, walk into the gym or head out running and your morale will have done a 180 by the time you're finished.
     
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  2. Trafford

    Trafford Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Apparently currently the ones being investigated are those who had business dealings or decision making/ money passing dealings with kinahan. Maklin, vaughans, kurgan probellum etc.

    the boxers under MTK are seen as small fry unless they are discovered to be complicit.


    Marshall couldn’t get in as she’s signed for management to a kinahan shell company along with Hughie based in Dubai that’s on the actual sanctions list. That’s the one that any fighter signed to may not be around for a while. Will be interesting how they play out. But most will be linked back to when kinahan bought Hennessy with the supposed owner of probellum when mick couldn’t get together the Parker purse bid
     
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  3. Jurgen

    Jurgen Pay Per Pudding Advisor banned Full Member

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    Lockdown must have created huge problems with alcoholism and it is all about moderation.

    We have all been there drinking excessively.
     
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  4. moog

    moog Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Oh were they not signed to MTK itself but the shell company. I hope it does not cause a hold up to the fighters careers. First I have heard of him putting money up for Hennessey.
     
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  5. Trafford

    Trafford Well-Known Member Full Member

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    If you go on companies house Ali shams pour is listed as an owner of Hennessy he’s the supposed money man for probellum and also owned glentoran football club with kinahan a few years ago. So he’s the front for kinahan.

    I believe Hughies is definitely with the dubai company. But I believe to get the Parker fight over the line. Peter signed some kind of deal to claw some of the cash back for kinahan over a longer period. Savannah I believe was also involved but not confirmed yet and was passed over by Sam Jones when he used to manage her.

    The US also sanctioned three businesses identified as “Kinahan associates”, including Hoopoe Sports, based in the United Arab Emirates, which lists five boxers as clients according to its website: Paddy Barnes, Jamie Conlan, Michael Conlan, Hughie Fury, and Billy Joe Saunders.
     
  6. TBC-ASAP

    TBC-ASAP Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I think if we knew the true percentage of people 18 to 50 on the bag it would be horrifying.

    Speaking to a guy at the gym who is in his early 60s, said he went to house gathering the other weekend, and was mortified that barring him and his wife nearly everyone else was on the sniff. He seems like an upped management/director type in his work, from a nice area. So just shows how widespread it is
     
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  7. TBC-ASAP

    TBC-ASAP Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    So much comes down to tax revenue as well, the Americans always say we will never not have guns because of our civil liberties or what ever nonsense. But the truth is they will never not have guns because their would be a trillion dollar hole in their economy. Alcohol without moderation is a terrible thing. But again it spins far too much cash.

    I think "NHS" say any more than 14 units of alcohol a week could mean alcoholism. Which is 1.5 bottles of wine a week. That does seem on the low side as I think that would make 80% of the nation an alcoholic.
     
  8. TBC-ASAP

    TBC-ASAP Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Was interesting that it turns out AJ's management company was originally MTK Properties Investments or something.
     
  9. Wig

    Wig Boxing Addict Full Member

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    It isn't on the low side at all, rather 80% of people are alcoholics. Just because everyones doing it, it doesn't suddenly become less damaging.

    Kind of my point, alcoholism in the UK is not only socially acceptable, it is socially championed. Having spent 20+ years as a drinker and the last few as a non drinker, its remarkable to view things from 'the other side' . For the record I'm also fitter, stronger, faster, healther, more productive, disciplined, creative and happier than I've ever been, at 44y/o. I'm just getting started.

    Booze ain't all its cracked up to be but for alot of us we are never really given the concept of NOT drinking alcohol. It's just part of what we do in the UK right? Island of alcoholics for sure.
     
  10. TBC-ASAP

    TBC-ASAP Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I did think 1.5 bottles a week over that means your an alcoholic did seem harsh. I am basically a non drink maximum 4 Guiness' a month. I just don't see any value in it, most soft drinks normally taste nicer, it's cheaper, no headaches and as you said, if I was too have a skin full it would probably take 3 days at the gym to get back to normal.
     
  11. ashishwarrior

    ashishwarrior I'm vital ! Full Member

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    there having to ban alcohol in India as it makes everybone very rapey it seems
     
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  12. Thefatprinceofwincobank

    Thefatprinceofwincobank Rhino stoppers Full Member

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    I can offer you some anecdotal evidence to support what you say. I moved away from my home town about 5 years ago because I was in my mid thirties and still spending most weekends off my nut. When the lockdowns were introduced a couple of years ago I went without booze for however long the pubs were shut. I’ve never been one for drinking in the house, just don’t see the point.

    Obviously I see the lads I used to knock around with far less often these days, I deleted a lot of numbers out my phone but I’m not infallible by any means. I was invited on a drinking session by a couple of lads I used to see sporadically and whilst I tried to put it off and give excuses for a couple of days I eventually succumbed to it. So spent Saturday afternoon until the early hours of Sunday morning getting absolutely wasted. Spent hundreds of pounds. That was Saturday and this is Tuesday and I still feel dreadful. Like my central nervous system is about to shut down. Paranoia, self loathing and lethargy.

    By this time next week I’ll have got myself right again, I’ll be swimming, running and hitting the gym again feeling on top of the world. The lads I was out with will be in the same cycle of getting hammered and then a world of pity and terror.

    That world is not for me anymore.
     
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  13. No idea

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    Oh shut up ffs , proper reaching now !!!
     
  14. TBC-ASAP

    TBC-ASAP Boxing Junkie Full Member

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  15. TBC-ASAP

    TBC-ASAP Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Odd how a dormant company changes its name from MTK to something else then £2.1m of property appears on the balance sheet 2 months later.
     
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