Canelo Wants Usyk...

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  1. Scar

    Scar VIP Member Full Member

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    Meanwhile, your farce hero is lobbying for a rematch with Brook.
     
  2. Pimp C

    Pimp C Too Much Motion Full Member

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    Fight will never happen
     
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  3. Quina74

    Quina74 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Canelo dragged 140lber Khan to fight at middleweight and looked north of 175lbs fight night. Let's relax on the hypocrisy you ginger teste suckler
     
  4. Levook

    Levook Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Perhaps Canelo is trying to psych Bivol, trying to make him think "wow, size really doesn't matter to this guy!"?
     
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  5. MarkusFlorez99

    MarkusFlorez99 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Canelo would get absolutely trashed. He will struggle against Bivol nevermind Usyk
     
  6. Scar

    Scar VIP Member Full Member

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    Alvarez' fight was nothing but tune-up quality at best. Your hero dragged 140lber Kell Brook in his biggest fight and win to date. :lol:
     
  7. Betyabeatyaup

    Betyabeatyaup Active Member Full Member

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    That’s a winnable fight for Canelo, Usyk loses his advantages when he faces smaller guys. The 201 talk is to do with it being a heavyweight fight, he’s talking about himself - not Usyk weighing 201. The Canelo hate on here is surprising, I don’t know how any boxing fan can’t be a huge fan of Canelo at this point. A fighter that always improves, searches out the biggest challenges, goes for knockouts and has an aggressive style. He’s exactly what boxing needed after the Floyd and Klitschko years, he’s one of the main guys who has saved the sport from the damage Floyd did to it. HBO was part of the problem, encouraging fights to simmer. We get big fights often now, boxing is the best it has ever been. Diversity of promoters and networks, fighters like Canelo leading the way with their ambition. Anybody hating on Canelo is hating on the sport at this point.

    Why wouldn’t every last boxing fan be getting excited and encouraging a Usyk-Canelo fight? Canelo would be fighting for the GOAT tag, and if Usyk beats Joshua again and whoever has Fury’s belt then it could be for undisputed heavyweight. You might think Canelo has no chance but would you want to watch that history, that ambitious attempt at greatness? I sure as hell would. That would be the biggest fight in the sport by a long way.
     
  8. catchwtboxing

    catchwtboxing Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Why not? With Fury gone, Usyk is soon to be lacking in big-name opponents.

    Make the fight. Can't hurt.
     
  9. catchwtboxing

    catchwtboxing Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I find this delusional.
     
  10. Betyabeatyaup

    Betyabeatyaup Active Member Full Member

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    What part of it? That Canelo has a chance against Usyk? That’s a position I can argue well.
     
  11. catchwtboxing

    catchwtboxing Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    The whole thing.

    Any you only think that you can argue it well.
     
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  12. Betyabeatyaup

    Betyabeatyaup Active Member Full Member

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    Well Canelo being the best thing for the sport isn’t an argument I have to make, everyone can see that with the fights being made and even Jake Paul trying to get in on it.

    Usyk doesn’t fight well against smaller opponents. Beterbiev beat him up twice as an amateur, dropping him with body shots. Beterbiev didn’t get the decisions but you can see who won those fights when you watch them. See Usyk against Nistor. See Usyk against Hunter in the first half of that fight. See Usyk getting outboxed by Bellew in the first half of their fight.

    How does Usyk win his fights? He is agile, he moves, he outboxes and he outworks opponents. Is it not obvious why he looks better against bigger opponents? He could have arguably lost the decision against Breidis (who is 6’1), and I knew that would be a tough fight for him. People were getting excited about Gassiev (who is 6’4) but that was a fight I knew Usyk would dominate (because the bigger the opponent the easier it is for Usyk to display the skill/speed gap). I was concerned about the Chisora fight at heavyweight, while I had no doubt that he would beat Joshua. I know Usyk well.

    Slickness and caution beats Canelo. That’s not how Usyk fights, he will be busy and feinting against someone who is used to seeing feints and fast punches. Usyk will be up against someone who is a far better counter puncher than Bellew, someone who can take flush punches from Golovkin (allegedly hits as hard as a heavyweight), from Gvozdyk, from Sanchez (a heavyweight). Usyk isn’t a heavy puncher and he’s not going to be landing flush on Canelo. Are you getting excited about the size difference? That’s not a factor in this fight. No one would be getting knocked out. Usyk doesn’t like body punches, Canelo likes to throw them and he is at the perfect level to land. Canelo is more likely to hurt Usyk than vice versa.

    Do you think Canelo has any chance against Beterbiev? If so, then why would you think me saying that Canelo having a chance against someone who Beterbiev beat up and bullied is ‘delusional’? I’ve explained the stylistic advantage for Canelo, the historical evidence for that, and the closest we have to a comparison point to make a prediction. I said it’s a winnable fight for Canelo, I’ve given the argument and I look forward to your response.
     
  13. catchwtboxing

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    Canelo is not the best in the sport--he should have 3-4 more losses.

    What happened to Usyk as an amateur is irrelevant.
     
  14. jmb1356

    jmb1356 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    It's more legit than Mayweather-McGegor ever was or Fury-Ngannou. That said, Usyk wins. Weight classes exist for a reason.
     
  15. Liquorice

    Liquorice Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    So why not Usyk v Crawford too then? :lol: .. Beterbiev isnt SMALL, he is 6' with a 185 reach (Canelos is 170!) & was fighting in the 91kg division even in his mid 20s.. dumb ass.. BIGGER than Canelo clearly. Until the Mexican cow juice kicked in at least .. & you obviously never watched those fights, because most of that is BS.. & when you have to go all the way back to the amateurs to find your reasoning you know you are scraping the barrel.. just imagine how slow Canelo would be at over 200lbs too ffs.. you think he'd cut the ring off against a general like Usyk or his power would make a dent? Gassiev, Joshua, Breidis, Chisora etc couldn't .. Golovkin out jabbed & outboxed this kid twice & he would get massacred by Usyk.. delusional fanboyism.. & why stop there too? Canelo v Fury? Why not..