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Bivol is coming to spar Canelo

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fitzroy boy_iron mike Active Member Full Member

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Quina74 said: ↑

I think it's pretty undeniable that Kovalev & Yildrim came specifically to lose. People seem to think Kovalev being a bit past it means he was unable to fully extend either of his arms from round 1 to the knockout. And that he, over 2 months, lost his ability to move in out and laterally, as well as mysteriously lose hesitation to any of Canelo's punches. The fact he showed all these attributes against essentially cruiserweights in Yarde (a significnatly bigger puncher than Canelo), Eleider and all opponents prior, is damning to put it lightly.

You'd struggle to find Kovalev throwing one or two punches with intent in that fight. This was a guy with arguably the best jab in boxing even at his age and beautiful straight 1-2s and 2-1-2 shots. I'd say it goes as far his jab is better than Golovkin's, with extra support from that additional reach and height. Canelo ate a ridiculous amount of jabs from 36 yo Golovkin as well as countless jabs and straight lefts from Lara. It's absolutely ridiculous to think Kovalevs performance was result of a short camp.

There were similar glaring signs in the Smith and Plant fight that they also
coming specifically to lose.

If we are going to pretend those fights are real, Bivol may seem one dimensional, but he is not and what he does works very well. This is not to mention he is a significantly better boxer than Plants failed Mayweather "style" who was up against Canelo on many fans scorecards according to some.

This is a Bivol who, despite looking like a 168lber, dominated much bigger light heavies. That in itself is impressive, especially as his opponents actually come to win. Its not up for debate that Pascal and Joe Smith Jr hit much harder than Canelo. Youd be clutching at the straws otherwise - something they like to do given some fanboys think Canelo legitimately stands a chance against Usyk. Look what Bivol did to the bigger light heavies, he boxed them beautifully, not really dancing around against the ropes but just outside the centre of the ring and in and out of his opponents range. He wasn't scared to engage. He was clearly cautious to engage with their power, but he'd step out step back in and take risks time and time again despite attempts at big counters. I guarantee we will not see this from Bivol against Canelo. Then people will claim "but Canelo's ring IQ is so good", just regurgitating commentators, when in fact he hasn't really shown any ring IQ since getting 8-4d by Golovkin twice. Canelo has not looked impressive since those two fights. His last fights have him plodding into his opponents range while opponents patty cake, then all he does is swing looping punches. His ring IQ is really not that great. This fight would be to big a risk for Canelo to risk. The fix is in, imo.
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This guy gets it.

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Quina74 said: ↑

I never said the Saunders fight was fixed. I called out the Kovalev fight as fixed after that fight itself.. As did many others suspect it including boxers Austin Trout, Badou Jakc, and Chris Eubank.

It's not irrational hate. It's irrational disbelief on your part. Boxing is a business dude, everyone knows that. All promoters specifically manufacture careers to minimise losses. For Canelo this goes as far as fixing fights
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Like i said, one weird fight and all of the sudden Bivol will come to lose ? lol you can't make this up.

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don,t think this fight is rigged....Bivol is a straight shooter so i think he wins

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This is why America is the way it has become. It all started with AOL where you had an abundance of nerds, ugly people, and generally , little pansies who would open their fat mouth and type something stupid. These nerds and little weak pansies would then click the tattle-tail button then cry and whine about how they were personally attacked. It moved on from there to hitting the tattle-tail button during debate when the little nerds and weak pansies did not like opposing opinions. And here we are today.

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This is why America is the way it has become. It all started with AOL where you had an abundance of nerds, ugly people, and generally , little pansies who would open their fat mouth and type something stupid. These nerds and little weak pansies would then click the tattle-tail button then cry and whine about how they were personally attacked. It moved on from there to hitting the tattle-tail button during debate when the little nerds and weak pansies did not like opposing opinions. And here we are today.
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Who the **** are you?

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MarkusFlorez99 said: ↑

Like i said, one weird fight and all of the sudden Bivol will come to lose ? lol you can't make this up.
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It's his weak minded way of dealing a possible Canelo win.

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drenlou said: ↑

Who the **** are you?
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Well, That; is none of your business.

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Quina74 said: ↑

I think it's pretty undeniable that Kovalev & Yildrim came specifically to lose. People seem to think Kovalev being a bit past it means he was unable to fully extend either of his arms from round 1 to the knockout. And that he, over 2 months, lost his ability to move in out and laterally, as well as mysteriously lose hesitation to any of Canelo's punches. The fact he showed all these attributes against essentially cruiserweights in Yarde (a significnatly bigger puncher than Canelo), Eleider and all opponents prior, is damning to put it lightly.

You'd struggle to find Kovalev throwing one or two punches with intent in that fight. This was a guy with arguably the best jab in boxing even at his age and beautiful straight 1-2s and 2-1-2 shots. I'd say it goes as far his jab is better than Golovkin's, with extra support from that additional reach and height. Canelo ate a ridiculous amount of jabs from 36 yo Golovkin as well as countless jabs and straight lefts from Lara. It's absolutely ridiculous to think Kovalevs performance was result of a short camp.

There were similar glaring signs in the Smith and Plant fight that they also
coming specifically to lose.

If we are going to pretend those fights are real, Bivol may seem one dimensional, but he is not and what he does works very well. This is not to mention he is a significantly better boxer than Plants failed Mayweather "style" who was up against Canelo on many fans scorecards according to some.

This is a Bivol who, despite looking like a 168lber, dominated much bigger light heavies. That in itself is impressive, especially as his opponents actually come to win. Its not up for debate that Pascal and Joe Smith Jr hit much harder than Canelo. Youd be clutching at the straws otherwise - something they like to do given some fanboys think Canelo legitimately stands a chance against Usyk. Look what Bivol did to the bigger light heavies, he boxed them beautifully, not really dancing around against the ropes but just outside the centre of the ring and in and out of his opponents range. He wasn't scared to engage. He was clearly cautious to engage with their power, but he'd step out step back in and take risks time and time again despite attempts at big counters. I guarantee we will not see this from Bivol against Canelo. Then people will claim "but Canelo's ring IQ is so good", just regurgitating commentators, when in fact he hasn't really shown any ring IQ since getting 8-4d by Golovkin twice. Canelo has not looked impressive since those two fights. His last fights have him plodding into his opponents range while opponents patty cake, then all he does is swing looping punches. His ring IQ is really not that great. This fight would be to big a risk for Canelo to risk. The fix is in, imo.
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Not sure about Yildrim. He just should never have got a shot. Eubank can’t really punch and he laid him out quite easily

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For all the crying about Yildrim, why didn't I hear a peep when he was getting title shots and Benavides' Mando before Canelo ever entered the division?

Op, maybe, just maybe it's time to give Canelo his due respect for what he's done these last few years. You can twist and twirl narratives however it's required for you to sleep at night, but nobody in the game has done half as much as he's done in the same time frame. Everyone's only out seems to be "the Canelo fight" meanwhile this guy is piling up the accolades and belts.

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Wonder if anybody has some inside knowledge on the ever expanding jawline of Canelo Álvarez? Its a strange phenomenon .. He's looking more and more like desperate Dan by the fight ..

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SpeedKills said: ↑

Who’s p4p #1?
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There's no such thing, it's fictional, but if I had to choose it would be Usyk

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Liquorice said: ↑

Wonder if anybody has some inside knowledge on the ever expanding jawline of Canelo Álvarez? Its a strange phenomenon .. He's looking more and more like desperate Dan by the fight ..
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https://www.bjpenn.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/12/Floyd-Mayweather-Canelo-Alvarez-Boxing.jpg.webp

Young drained Canelo^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

https://i0.wp.com/bettinginsiderjou...loads/2022/02/Canelo-vs-Bivol.png?w=793&ssl=1

Prime NOT drained Canelo^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Simple case of you seeing what you want to see.

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FanManII said: ↑

Well, That; is none of your business.
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Im sowwey, did you say something?

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It will be interesting to see, make sure to pay close attention to the fight. I think bivol is going to box canelo up but then lose a close decision on the cards. Canelo will have his moments with body shots. Boxing at this stage with this amount of money on the line is basically theater.

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OldSchoolBoxing said: ↑

Canelo is false p4p king, because he lost to Golovkin twice.

However, he doesn't have to pay Bivol or the judges to defeat Bivol. So, no, it will not be sparring.

Having said that, Kovalev vs Canelo looked sparring to me as well. Either that or Kovalev was too cautious to attack Canelo.
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He did get ko'd

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