Tyson Fury vs Muhammad Ali

Have we ever seen Fury against a good boxer who was faster than him? That's the concern, he looks extremely fast against stiffs he faces but he wouldn't have that advantage against Ali.

Such a shame that we didn't get Fury vs Usyk, that would tell us a lot about Fury.

 

Hughie is his Cousin.
I heard that before, ah it is hard to sort things out, the farmer who testified against them was seemingly discredited, but I dunno if it could have been wild boar meat...
He is being ignorant & unfair in attacking Usyk as a PED user, & when Wlad called him at it has been vicious.

I know well you can look like fat James Toney on steroids.
Maybe he is using, or did so before-although for cardio it is other stuff like EPO...

 

The Nandrolone controversy was what was involved in the boar meat claim.
It was not clear cut; I have seen him defended in detail here & it was said it was not the crazy high level folks usually get busted on. However I do not know the details well, nor can I exculpate him from the other dirty test.

So the odds are against his innocence, & he should never have attacked Usyk when there is no evidence damning him as a drug cheat.

 

No, which is why we don't know Ali limitations in that matter and we will never know it.

That's why more info from Fury's side would help us.

 

With the competition he fought and the way he man handled his guys, we can probably tell that he is the best heavyweight of THIS era.
He would lean down on Ali IF and only IF he catches him
. And my opinion is that even if he did, Ali still, once again, had his underrated strength to take himself out of the clinches and the dirty "grab" game and keep on using his eons greater speed to dart inside and out, pound fury's eyes until he gets a stoppage due to cut or a decision win. Of course you will say no one has ever managed to neutralize Fury's dirty tactics, well because none of them were as good as Muhammad, and none of them had anything in common with him apart from the fact that they are bipedal mammals.

As for the size advantage, you are forcing me to reiterate the fact that bigger size differences have been overcome.

Unless the man is as good a fighter as his smaller opponent is, size would not matter that much. Same thing in this matchup.

Again, i know of no one who believe that Fury's jab was better than Liston's or terrel's, so i wonder why you think it would be effective here against Ali.

 

Amazing how popular "boar meat" is among professional athletes, despite the fact that it apparently gets more people busted for PEDs than actual PEDs.

Of course, there is a more obvious possible explanation for why so many people who fail drug tests claim to have eaten "boar meat"...

 

Ken Norton weighed all of about 215 pounds and he broke Ali's jaw. I shutter to think what the Stay Puff Marshmellow Man Fury would do to him.
Ali's only chance would be to RUN, just like he did from the war, I could see him gassing Fury out from chasing him all night.
I know one thing for sure, if Ali thinks he's going to lay along the ropes and catch Fury late, he would get knocked TFO worse than Wilder in that third fight.

 

two different animals...

one an excellent boxer, one a crude clumsy scrappy fighter, it's so hard to even compare the two.

Sad we are even expected too.

 

I wonder if anyone else here actually believes something like this. No offense.

 

Do you believe Ali would rope a dope Fury ?

 

Fury was knocked down by Cade Cunningham who was smaller than Ali. Can you imagine him against the real Ali...

 

So, what about Fury v Usyk?