Who beat Canelo more convincingly: Mayweather, Golovkin the first time around or Bivol?

mayweather, and not even close. gg simply only won in gtards heads, so I cant have an opinion about that.

 

This wasn't anywhere near the best version of Canelo. Canelo is much slower at 175 than at 160 or 168 or even when he was at 154. He has good power at 175, but nowhere near as elusive or as effective as a counter puncher.

 

1. Bivol
2. Floyd
3. GGG 1
4. GGG 2
5. Lara

 

canelo does not carry enough power to 175, lets be honest. The only thing that bivol had to do to neutralize the whole canelo's offensive was to keep his guard up, period, nothing else. Bivol could have stood there with his guard up and doing nothing for 15 rounds without any problem at all. He obviously did way more than that, I 'm not implying he only did that, what I'm saying is the he could have done that.

 

Rumsfeld had it 116-112 Bivol, which seems about right. I could see 115-113 or 117-111 with 1 or 2 swing rounds, but anything outside that is biased imho. Giving every round to Bivol is certified Canelo hater territory.

 

He was even a lot slower at 168. He dropped quite a few rounds against Saunders and Plant. Moving up in weight weakened his defence. I would say Canelo was at his best defensively against Golovkin and Jacobs.

 

Bivol

However both of his loses were very very decisive

 

I agree with the Floyd fighting a severely drained child part, and I wouldn't dispute the comprehensively outboxing him part. He did comprehensively outbox him, outside of round 9, and the first 4-5 rounds which are very debatable. It was not a clear 12-0 Bivol, but I know you're not gonna budge from that. I have my view, you have yours.

 

This plain and simple.

 

Best Canelo for me was against Chavez Jr, close 2nd GGG 1 and Jacobs.

 

Shouldnt you be on a ledge somewhere?

 

Clearly it was Mayweather. Bivol landed more but took more. Floyd didn’t get touched and landed clean shots all night. He fought a much greener Canelo and at a catchweight but it was probably a better weight for Canelo than 175.

 

No LOL I predicted this.

 

He's never been effective or elusive against a quicker man.

Which is why he looked much better after moving up because he was almost always the quicker man.

When he hasn't been, he's always been the stronger man.

Until tonight.