Who beat Canelo more convincingly: Mayweather, Golovkin the first time around or Bivol?

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  1. ArtBoxer

    ArtBoxer Member Full Member

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    Canelo was on the defence almost the whole first GGG fight, trying to survive. In the Bivol fight he never showed he was that unwilling to get hit. And GGG didn't have huge size advantage
     
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  2. FrankinDallas

    FrankinDallas FRANKINAUSTIN

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    Floyd probably won more rounds, Bivol put on a clinic, and GGG I was two guys at the same weight.

    Canelo wasn't "green" when he fought Floyd, young yes but not green. It was his 45th fight, and he had defeated guys like Cotto (not Miguel), Hatton (not the good one), Mosely, Josesito Lopez, Citron, NDou, and Baldomir. Yet Floyd schooled him badly.

    Bivol was a step up in weight. And yes, Bivol schooled him.
    GGG hurt Canelo, no question. And both guys were prime or close, and comfortable at that weight.

    Call me Adelaide, but I have it a three way tie. A draw.
     
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  3. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    ...okay? Bivol still won more rounds than GGG, and most of them weren't remotely close.
     
  4. cuchulain

    cuchulain Loyal Member Full Member

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    If you say so, Shadow.


    I don't know if you've ever encountered the many universes interpretation of quantum mechanics.

    If I'm being very kind, I think you might be a visitor from a parallel universe.
     
  5. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    ...a shadow-being, if you will?
     
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  6. JOKER

    JOKER Froat rike butterfry, sting rike MFER! banned Full Member

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    Juiced up Floyd fought a clean, green, and drained Canelo.

    GGG fought hulked out versions of Clenelo — won 8-4 in both.

    Bivol fought a hulked out version of Clenelo, albeit a slightly slower, heavier version — acceptable scorecards range from 12-0 to 9-3. 8-4 if you're a cousin of Clenelo and/or love sucking him off.

    1) Bivol
    2) GGG
     
  7. cuchulain

    cuchulain Loyal Member Full Member

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    :biggrin:
     
  8. Jackman65

    Jackman65 FJB Full Member

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    Bivol but the first GGG fight was almost equally convincing. Bivol barely broke a sweat. He took a major chance leaving it in the hands of the judges but it paid off. I hope he doesn’t take that chance again if they have a rematch. Canelo has no business fighting prime guys at 175. I hope he fights Beterbiev just for fun.
     
  9. ArtBoxer

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    Size advantage was not the only/main reason Clenelo lost, but was a major factor. Gained weight affected his speed and endurance which he admited. A smaller 160lb version of Bivol would be an easier fight. Not saying Clen would've won, but it would be more competitive
    Clen's punches didn't bother Bivol, he absorbed bombs with a smile, while GGG clearly didn't like the punches het got hit with.
     
  10. Noel857

    Noel857 I Am Duran Full Member

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    Mayweather,Bivol then GGG
     
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  11. Ph33rknot

    Ph33rknot Live as if you were to die tomorrow Full Member

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    May. schooled a larger man

    Bivol. Did what he was supposed to do






















    G. Close fight he was supposed to ko canelo couldn't even hurt him
     
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  12. acie2g

    acie2g Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    So pretty much bivol or Mayweather then? Y’all GGG Stan’s trying to slide yourself in when he got a draw then got beat tf up in the rematch.

    as far as bivol or Floyd I would say Floyd even though Canelo is more in prime now, before the fight he beat Trout and directly after he beat Lara which shows Canelo was still a quality fighter even if young, also if we just go off punch stats Floyd landed close to 250 shots on Canelo his placement and accuracy was crazy, bivol was really just more active but never really landed cleanly the entire fight but was able to maintain his space as the bigger man and keep a jab effectively in his face most of the night.
    Be intriguing to see how both fighters move next
     
  13. Drew101

    Drew101 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Close between Mayweather and Bivol.

    Mayweather had a strong case for winning all twelve rounds. Canelo pretty clearly took the ninth against Bivol, imo. So, in terms of sustained dominance, that tips the balance to Mayweather for me.
     
  14. Young Terror

    Young Terror ★ Griselda ★ Full Member

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    What a surprise.
     
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  15. cuchulain

    cuchulain Loyal Member Full Member

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    This.

    I had GGG winning eight clear rounds, but Bivol won ten even clearer rounds.

    Also, Bivol laid a lot more hurt on Canelo than GGG did.

    In fact, I think if he had turned up the gas in round eleven, he could have gotten Canelo out of there.