The 20 Greatest Fighters of All Time

Off topic but love the profile pic, Ashita No Joe is so much better than Hajime No Ippo. Joe Yabuki is my favorite fictional depiction of a boxer.

 

Not sure you’re worth a response…anyone worth a discussion with would at least acknowledge Mayweathers in the convo.

as far as Marciano goes he beat three people on the top 20 list of everyone. Retired undefeated with the highest Ko percentage in the toughest division. Not that hard to fathom an argument for.

 

Is context lost on you?

 

Nope. Understand the concept probably far better then you. I don’t see your list to be scrutinized. The 15-30 area is gray. Marcianos in the discussion. Wether you agree or not is irrelevant. Most fans of the sport can at the least acknowledge Mayweather and Marciano or part of the discussion of greatest fighters ever.

 

I don't normally get involved in Pound for Pound discussions, but I think Bob Fitzsimmons belongs in any top 20 PFP discussion, even if the discussion is limited to 1900 and beyond. Bob did continue campaigning seriously as a Heavyweight until 1903, and his career continued until much deeper into the 20th century. In almost all of his fights, in any weight class, Bob was probably a Middleweight or Super Middleweight, or even Super Welterweight (by today's standards), and yet he had great successes at Heavyweight. In fact, a hard look at his record, in its entirety indicates better successes at Heavyweight than at Middleweight, or Light Heavyweight, and he won The World Lineal Championship in all 3 divisions.

 

Welcome to the forum BTW.

 

Ali does not belong in the top 5

 

Joe's character arc has really been a rare experience in storytelling period ( Let alone fictional boxing stories, not a single boxer protagonist comes close to Joe ). The final portion of Ashita No Joe has really been carved deep inside my soul, from around the Kim part all the way to the end with Jose. Just watching Joe get brain damage and him having the resolve to risk his life to fulfil his desire is absolutely tragic, more so with all those episodes and moments where he is just living a normal life with his friends, or when he is in hawaii, watching Nishi and Noriko wed etc. while realizing that Jose is the boxer that he "could" have been had things turned out differently. Emotional beats like that are hard to leave.