That was pretty weak with the Bob Foster comparison. Ali and Frazier were 2 of the most dominate heavys in the history of the sport. And as a champion with the exception of his last title bout Bob basically laid waste to everyone in his division. No controversy at all. Canelo on the otherhand...........
That's what I kept trying to tell people. He's a skilled fighter but not that skilled. He's manufactured by the promoters because he sells tickets that's it. And his punching power is MASSIVELY overrated. Cotto. Mosley. These guys were old AND way above their best weight class and still Canelo couldn't come close to hurting or stopping either one. Put Cotto and Mosley past their primes in say with a peak Hearns and watch how both would get blasted out.
The point was that Canelo, losing to a to an undefeated champion who is either the best or second best fighter in a weight class three divisions above where you started winning titles, does not render him "exposed." Canelo, on the other hand, has pretty much cleaned out the 168 lb division by beating three undefeated belt-holders, two by KO and the other by near shut-out, in under a year. So moving up and losing does not mean he got "exposed."
The super-middleweight division is, was, and has been a trash division. Unifying there isn't nothing, but it's being overstated in the pantheon of undisputed by quite a fair bit.
"was" and "has been" are the same thing. Some former SMW champions... James Toney, Roy Jones jnr, Joe Calzaghe, Nigel Benn, Andre Ward, Steve Collins, Chris Eubank, Tommy Hearns Canelo just came off beating three undefeated boxers to unify. As you say, that's not nothing. Earlier, he established himself as the second best Middlewt on the planet. And before that, the best Junior middlewt. So regardless of what you think of the current SMW division or the earlier SMW division, my point was and IS, losing to arguably the best LHW on the planet does NOT constitute Canelo being "exposed."
meant to say "always has been" but fair point regardless. Now those are mighty fine names and maybe memory is serving me wrong but even when these guys were active weren't people lamenting about the overall weakness and top-heaviness of the super-middleweight division then? Certainly better now though so again, point to you. It's also not that fantastic. None of them were lighting the world on fire and had been playing a wonderful game of ring-around-the-rosy with each other, waiting for the Cinnamon Sweepstakes. Canelo's rampage through that weight-class was more satisfying than p4p-proving. I don't think him losing to Bivol is "exposing" either, I just object to anyone citing his work at super-middleweight as anything jaw-dropping amazing. It's basically a reflex at this point.
It renders him totally exposed. The Krusher fight was a totally BS fight as he is totally done and everyone knew it but of course Canelo once he stopped him was all the sudden this massive puncher all the sudden. Truth is Bivol is a small lightheavy and on fight night they were pretty much the same size and Canelo got dominated. Wow. 3 unbeaten Super middle fighters and they are who? Billy Joe. Plant. And who else? And neither one of those two had any power whatsoever did they? Canelo should have three losses on his record and you know that. There is NO possible way he got a draw with GGG that first fight. And I'm not even a GGG fan but he Outboxed Canelo clear as day that night. There is no way possible he swept ALL 4 rounds vs Bivol. Canelo who supposedly is now a defensive master can't stop someone who has a good jab. He just can't. Jab and move on him and he has a hard time. Plant and Saunders are fine boxers but in the annuals of all-time greats at Super middle they aren't even close.
Fair enough. The title of the thread was... Canelo didnt just lose he was exposed. I disagreed, and all of my points in this thread were to refute the notion that Canelo had been "exposed."