Do you think the judging in Canelo vs Bivol was corrupt/biased

It's simply A-side pressure:
a) they want to be hired for future Canelo fights, and
b) they want to have similar scores to the other judges, who they likewise expect to score close rounds to Canelo

Overall, and not just for Canelo (but perhaps more so because Canelo is the biggest A-side in the game), the hometown / A-side fighter often gets this sort of advantage - to win a round against them, you need to win it with some margin.

 

Yes, should have been wider victory for Bivol.

 

And what about the uppercuts? Why are we continuing to ignore the elephant in the room? When you chalk up the scoring merely to the "A-side" getting the advantage and completely ignore what happened in the rounds, it's not only laziness, but it gets us away from were the focus needs to be and causes the focus to be elsewhere, causes us to think things that are imaginary and not important.

Canelo Alvarez landed tremendous, brutal uppercuts in rounds 1-4 with Bivol on the ropes covering up. if you don't think that those uppercuts had anything to do with why Canelo won those rounds, I don't know what sport you think this is. And it wasn't just those massive uppercuts that won Canelo those rounds. It was good blocking, good defense, making Bivol miss, landing other punches, like body punches, Canelo had a nice right hook around Bivol's guard that landed right across the chin.

Look, Bivol had some success in Rounds 1-4, he threw more punches, maybe landed a few more, but he didn't land any punches that were as good as the uppercuts Canelo landed. That's what catches the judges attention and that's why Canelo won those rounds. Not because he was the A-side, not because the judges were corrupt, not any of that bull****. Canelo won those rounds with those uppercuts combined with good defense which prevented Bivol from landing many clean shots in those rounds. The rounds that Bivol won, Canelo didn't land those massive uppercuts combined with Bivol landing more clean punches. That's how boxing matches are scored.

 

You could argue that, Bivol had some success in rounds 1-4, but there was nothing wrong with how the judges scored it. They saw what they saw and those uppercuts made the difference in those rounds. They were fantastic uppercuts and good enough to win Canelo those rounds in rounds that close. In close rounds, big eye catching flashy power shots win rounds.

 

Reading the replies of pro-Canelo posters here, I think we can safely say they're entering the second stage of grief.

We've had 'denial' (Some people at first carry on as if nothing has happened) and are into the 'anger' phase.

I'm starting to identify some 'Bargaining' too.

Depression soon...

 

Canelo needs Adalaide Byrd.

 

Years later, people will look at Canelo's resume and see this loss, 115-113 all judges. They will think "oh, Canelo lost to this guy named Bivol, but he probably wasn't so bad, the scores are close", because they didn't see the fight.

 

Well it goes both ways. There's a good amount of anger from the anti-Canelo people about the judges scores being so close. And really that's the main source of the problem. I'm trying to help them see why the judges scored the first 4 rounds to Canelo, so they understand why, by pointing out the uppercuts and what not. If you call that grief and denial, it's not me who is in denial about what happened or how close it is. We have a good amount of people trying to argue Bivol won almost every round and completely ignoring what happened in rounds 1-4. That's denial. If the anti-Canelo people weren't so upset over how close it was scored, we wouldn't have this problem. But it's the same problem that has existed all along. I'm actually trying to help people realize that there isn't any funny business going on, but some people really want to believe conspiracies rather than look at what happened. I'm trying to bring it back to what actually happened in the boxing ring, but many people don't want to really look at that which is sad because that should always be the basis.

 

Hopefully by then they'll understand that brutal uppercuts were landed by Canelo which made it so close.

 

But they're not suffering grief, so it doesn't work like that...

 

That being said, you've not gone into hiding like a number of your cohorts, so props for that Mr Shadow...

 

Well I'm not sure how many Canelo fans are suffering grief because pretty much every Canelo fan including myself has accepted that he lost. In my case, I even said I favored Bivol to win so this wasn't that surprising. If you wanna talk about grief, I think it doesn't really compare to other results like Canelo GGG 1 and 2 where GGG fans were truly in grief and tatters over what happened there. I mean, it's not even like Canelo lost his titles or anything. Losing 115-113 to Bivol at 175 is hardly a devasating loss. It's a very ho-hum defeat that Canelo and his fanbase can easily recover from. It's not like when GGG lost to Canelo and GGG's fanbase became completely unglued. So we need to keep things in perspetive. This is not a bad or demoralizing loss at all. Canelo dared to be great, took a big risk, and lost a close decision to arguably the best LHW in the world.

 

Thanks bud, I'm here rain or shine.