What would Deontay Wilder's boxing record be if he fought in Muhammad Ali's era?

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  1. iloverachel2

    iloverachel2 New Member banned Full Member

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    Deontay Wilder has ferocious knockout power, with 41 knockouts in his career.
    He also has a pretty impressive record of 42 wins 2 losses and 1 draw

    However, his biggest criticism is that he has not fought anyone truly elite with the exception of Tyson Fury, and that he relies on his devastating right hand rather than boxing skills to win fights.

    With that being said, if he fought 45 times in Muhammad Ali's era, what do you think his record will be? Would he continue to destroy opponents? Or will he be outboxed and out skilled by the legends such as Foreman, Frazier, etc.
     
  2. Jackal

    Jackal Member Full Member

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    He wouldn't get past Chuvalo.
     
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  3. The Clan

    The Clan Well-Known Member Full Member

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    No, his biggest criticism is that he hasn’t fought anyone above white collar, journeymen and tomato can level

    If he fought 42 times in the Ali, Frazier era he’d realistically be something like
    Fights 42
    Wins 8 (6KOs)
    Losses 34 (29KOs)
     
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  4. Guerra

    Guerra Well-Known Member Full Member

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    He would be shavers
     
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  5. Furey

    Furey EST & REG 2009 Full Member

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    Lol behave
     
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  6. KernowWarrior

    KernowWarrior Bob Fitzsimmons much bigger brother. Full Member

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    Going against the view of many but i believe Wilder with a good gas tank and his heavy punch would not be as bad as some others say.

    Whatever your view of the competition Wilder has faced, it took a behemoth with skills and recuperative powers of 'The Undertaker' to actually beat him.

    Wilder for all his lack of boxing skills only needs one opening to back up his quote of:
    "These guys have to be perfect for 12 rounds, I only need to be perfect for two seconds, and then in the blink of an eye it’s bam baby, goodnight!”

    I am not a Wilder fan but dismissing him out of hand in the Ali era i cannot agree with.
     
  7. CroBox29

    CroBox29 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Wilder could beat fighters like Bugner and Chuvalo...
     
  8. Dubblechin

    Dubblechin Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    The havoc Wilder would've caused in the late 1960s and the 1970s would've been enormous.

    A 6'7" menacing KO artist with a lethal right hand against fighters who outweigh him by 20, 30, 40, 50 pounds NOW ....

    Instead goes up against six foot tall, 190/200 pound fighters from the late 60s and early 70s where it's Wilder with the height and reach and WEIGHT advantage ... live on ABC's Wide World of Sports?

    Wilder would've gotten higher ratings than Evel Knievel.

    The 1967/68 WBA Tournament ... Wilder walks away with all knockouts.

    A unification with Frazier, Wilder destroys Joe. Destroys him.

    Wilder would've been the image of the Black Power "I'm Black and I'm Proud" Movement.

    1971 Ali coming back with a little rust on him and dreading the upcoming Supreme Court ruling on his future ... looking to lay on the ropes against Wilder to save his legs ... I won't even type what I think happens to Ali, only that he goes down and doesn't get up.

    Ken Norton? Christ ... Norton would be signing up to make Mandingo II and never return to the sport.

    Once Wilder got out of the early 70s, he could've gotten older and feasted on the likes of Evangelista, Dunn, Bobick, Leon, John Tate, Kallie Knoetzee.

    With no 6'9" 280-pound boxing phenom Fury around ... the only thing that would derail Wilder was if he developed a cocaine habit in the latter half of the 70s that cut down a lot of folks. If so, he'd have probably died in some bizarre overdose after heading back to the Chateau Marmont with Suzanne Somers (Three's Company) and the Bionic Woman, Lindsay Wagner.

    Otherwise, he retires as champ and has his own sitcom by the start of the 80s that debuts right after "B.J. and the Bear" ... featuring Wilder, in a classic sitcom scenario, as the head of a household full of a bunch of opinionated kids, and Deontay Wilder becomes America's dad ... instead of Bill Cosby.

    Something like that.
     
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  9. Reinhardt

    Reinhardt Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    He'd have some good wins perhaps , but his losses would be catastrophic knockouts that shorten his career.
     
  10. Johnny1987

    Johnny1987 Active Member Full Member

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    As much as i dislike him, he would pretty much KO most of those overrated midgets
     
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  11. djanders

    djanders Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Obviously, Ali would beat him. Shifty boxers like Jimmy Young would probably beat him. I think Foreman would beat him. If he fought the major players in Ali's eras, I would expect him to be about 39-6 (39 wins by KO), with 45 trips to the well. Not a bad career, really. (IMHO, of course.)
     
  12. Oddone

    Oddone Bermane Stiverne's life coach. Full Member

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    Brutal knockouts would shorten his career. After the second Fury fight Wilder had less punch resistance... he'd get hurt by the bigger hitters including Liston and Foreman and that would be the end of it.
     
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  13. The Professor

    The Professor Socialist Ring Leader Staff Member

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    That about sums it up.
     
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  14. catchwtboxing

    catchwtboxing Obsessed with Boxing

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    Depends. Would he fight bums and physically unfit fighters then? Then it would be similar to now.
     
  15. exocet76

    exocet76 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I think this is reasonable although he might get a loss or two more. The issue I have is that Wilder has only fought 1 elite fighter in Fury who himself is untested relative to the ATG's at heavy. I mean Fury has only had 5 World Championship fights and three of them against Wilder.
    As for Wilder's reign well that pales against the the other ATG's who fought pretty much everyone in their own era's. I think people overstate the modern era just because they're bigger but they're still largely untested for me.
     
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