Do you think the judging in Canelo vs Bivol was corrupt/biased

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Do you think the judging in Canelo vs Bivol was corrupt

  1. Yes

  2. No

  3. Not corrupt, but it's definitely biased

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  1. Grinder

    Grinder Dude, don't call me Dude Full Member

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    Denial ain't just a river in Egypt.
     
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  2. kiwi_boxer

    kiwi_boxer nighty night, ellerbe ☠ ☠ ☠ banned Full Member

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    How? Literally provide a breakdown of how you could possibly have got to that score.
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    Scoring is based on 3 markers. Canelo failed to check 1 box, let alone 3 in any given round.

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    Being aggressive gives the impression of dominance, but unless the boxer is landing shots and not constantly getting countered, it isn't really 'effective'. Judges look for effective aggression, where the aggressor consistently lands punches and avoids those from his opponent.
    How can Canelo possibly have picked up more than 2 rounds? Every time Canelo made a spirited effort to put Bivol on the back foot his lunging hooks were blocked and counted with 1-2 punches.

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    The fighter who controls the action and enforces their will and style.
    Canelo had about 8 opportunities where he had Bivol exactly where he wanted him, but couldn't get anything off or land. Bivols defence was sound from start to finish. The few times Canelo tried to enforce his will, he was counted and quickly went onto the back foot. That's the opposite of ring generalship.

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    To the untrained eye, it can appear as if a boxer is landing a lot of shots, when, in fact, most are being blocked or aren’t landing flush. A judge needs to look for hard shots that land clean.
    Bivol was the only fighter landing clean, effective punches throughout the fight - as proven by punch stats and watching the fight over. As most have covered already (Bivol included), Canelo's most effective punch was the hook to the bicep/tricep - which isn't a scoring shot. His next significant punch was the uppercut. Which he failed to land almost every time he threw it.
     
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  3. Liquorice

    Liquorice Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    Canelo fans have argued he'd beat the likes of Usyk & Marciano with me in the past :lol:.. I have no sympathy… Look it's just sport and a bit of fun really and Canelo is an excellent fighter but he's not as good as his fans made him out to be.. no matter how hard I try I can't score either of the Golovkin fights for Canelo… He barely got by the likes of Lara as well and now he just got fairly dominated by a relative novice (pro ranks) in comparison to him .. fair play to him he takes the challenges and is an excellent fighter no doubt but there's a lot of Asterisks attached to him
     
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  4. lordlosh

    lordlosh Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Get the **** out of here blinded fanboy. In the RBR you in the 11, your scorecards was 6-5 for Clenelo. You don't have fairness in you.

    The only close rounds this fight have is the 4 and the 9. Everything else was clear rounds for Bivol by quite a margin.
     
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  5. Grinder

    Grinder Dude, don't call me Dude Full Member

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    A scoring punch is not any punch thrown by Canelo, which seems to be the definition for many here.

    A “clean” blow is one that lands on an opponent without being blocked. Sometimes, when the punch makes a loud noise and seems like it made contact, it actually just hit their glove or barely made any type of contact. If a punch does not land flush on an opponent, it is not deemed a clean punch.

    Canelo throws hard punches that often land on gloves or arms. That is to create the illusion of success, especially with a corrupt commentary. Those punches mean nothing except evidence of aggression, not even "effective aggression".

    Watch the fight again, even watch his fights with Lara, Trout, GGG x 2. Maybe you also need to watch fights that don't involve Canelo. Subsequently, return and provide the evidence as to how Canelo won the fight, or even how he win 5 rounds.
     
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  6. lordlosh

    lordlosh Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Does anyone of Clenbuterolos fangirls for real think Clenbuterolos won the fight ? I have them all on my ignore list so i can't see their posts, but i'm curious if they are that denial.
     
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  7. m.s.

    m.s. Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    They do a fine job at always making sure Canelo comes out ahead in every possible situation. The blue print is out, in order to get a 115 - 113 win over Canelo you have to win 10 rounds to 2. The proof was there for the world to see. Complete exposure, there is no excuse for what transpired. Canelo losing isn't the big news, the corrupt judging is.
     
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  8. m.s.

    m.s. Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    That happens in the GGG fights as well.
     
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  9. m.s.

    m.s. Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    They continue to get away with the crime, that's why it keeps happening. The corrupt judging is only needed when Canelo meets his match. Otherwise it goes unnoticed.
     
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  10. m.s.

    m.s. Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    So the PED use from 2018 was exposed, and now the corrupt judging was exposed for the entire world to see without any doubt, the only thing left is for GGG to KO Canelo to end this circus act once and for all.
     
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  11. shadow111

    shadow111 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Only sissy boys allege corrupt judging. One day you'll grow up and realize that your problems with the judging are all just a facade to try and short change Canelo at every turn. Most people had it 8-4 or 9-3. 115-113 was closer than it seemed but not unreasonable given how close and hard to score rounds 1-4 were. The gig is up, give it a rest and enjoy the Bivol win. We've heard enough crying about the judging for one lifetime. The right man won, it was a great performance by Bivol. No excuses or complaining needed.
     
  12. acie2g

    acie2g Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    dude in the round by round I said I missed a few rounds after the 7th, also if you pay attention I gave my score and a possible score like after 9 I said Canelo COULD be up 5-4 depending on how rounds 1&2 were scored and stated that I didn’t give him either of those 2 rounds. Also stated I rewatched the full fight and had it 9-3 Bivol me myself I could care less who wins I just want entertaining fights but y’all be over exaggerating anything Canelo related.
     
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  13. shadow111

    shadow111 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Some of these guys get very emotional about this lol.
     
  14. m.s.

    m.s. Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Only because he won 10 -2 in rounds. Otherwise he would have got robbed.
     
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  15. shadow111

    shadow111 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Woulda coulda shoulda. Bivol won, end of story.