Canelo Bivol rounds 1-4 - "close fight" comprehensively debunked debunked

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  1. shadow111

    shadow111 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    You're running away because you remain in complete denial of what the consensus was. I spoon fed you 4 pages of reddit scores, your poll shows an even split of the first 4 rounds. And now you're doing what you usually do, after being proven wrong thoroughly you run away with your tail between your legs just like GGG ran back to that locker room after getting beat up by Canelo in the rematch. :deal:

    You know, I took the time to put those screenshots together to show you how many people had it 116-112 and how many people scored the first 4 to Canelo and thought it was a close fight. The least you can do is realize this now and acknowledge that the fans in fact were split on who won the first 4 rounds and many had Canelo winning those rounds.
     
  2. exocet76

    exocet76 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Yes but you're ignoring the point I'm making Shadow.
    The point being that I weigh peoples opinions on here far more than random casual fans on social media.
    My point still stands. I watched the fight and was trackong the RBR and the majority on here were within my scoring range.
    I'm not interested on a biased channel on you tube. You used this argument on the Flat Earth thread mentioning a video getting a 100 likes then ignoring the videos that I countered with a 100k likes.
    We can all do semantics and selective data sets however I'm always going to take an informed opinion over one that is not.
     
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  3. Quina74

    Quina74 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Again, I have never appealed to how others scored the fight in any argument. I was simply providing counter arguments to your response. I've already said this and I've already scored the round in more detail than any of those guys. Again rounds 1-3 are not close. The fact you are trying to claim this as a victory for yourself is just low.

    Okay, I'm done. You're not really here to be serious.
     
  4. shadow111

    shadow111 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Everyone on reddit disagrees with you. :facepalm:
     
  5. shadow111

    shadow111 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    The question at hand is were rounds 1-4 close and could each of those rounds be scored for Canelo. If they weren't close, which is the argument that Q is making, then why are the fans split on who won each of those rounds and why are there so many reddit posters saying they scored some or most of those rounds for Canelo? Why are so many reddit posters saying they scored it 116-112 and why are posts like that getting so many likes? Obviously the fans are very split on who won those rounds, right, you see that now, right? That indicates that those are close rounds and not easy to score, the complete opposite of the argument Q is making.
     
  6. Quina74

    Quina74 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    :facepalm:

    Look I can do exactly what you can do some comments :

    "there's an argument for 117-111, but I still think Bivol took 10 rounds" 23 upvotes

    "I had Canelo taking 3 rounds at most, don't know what the judges were watching" 17 upvotes

    So again you talking out your ass. Now stop responding to me you fool
     
  7. shadow111

    shadow111 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    But wait a minute, you're saying that you CAN'T make the argument that Canelo won 3 rounds. You are making the argument that rounds 1-3 were not close, that scoring those to Canelo are unreasonable. You can't get to a 117-111 score if you score the first 3 rounds to Bivol. I'm saying that it was a 116-112 / 117-111 sort of fight, you're saying no it was 12-0 / 11-1 and you can't score it closer than that.
    You said the first 3 rounds weren't close, you can't get to a 117-111 score after giving the first 3 rounds to Bivol. And that's even if you gave Round 4 and Round 9 to Canelo. You have to score at least 1 of the first 3 to Canelo to get to 117-111, and you must give him round 4 and round 9.
     
  8. Quina74

    Quina74 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    You really are desperate lmao
     
  9. shadow111

    shadow111 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    You're the one stuck, not me. My view of the fight is consistent with the fans. Yours isn't.
     
  10. Quina74

    Quina74 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    You really are struggling to understand the points I'm making. You still don't get that I am not appealing to how others scored simply responding with posts/points that are equally as irrelevant as your appeal to 19 redditors. And actually I saw you explicitly state Canelo won 5 rounds and also heavily suggest you agree with the judges.

    Again. This is getting quite annoying now as I've said it a thousand times. I've broken the fight in far greater detail than any of these redditors have. Rd 1 three is zero case. Rd 2 and 3 there is a very very poor case for Canelo. Thats it.. Okay I'm out
     
  11. shadow111

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    OK lets try this : You would agree the fans are split on who won the first 4 rounds. I mean the poll you posted earlier certainly indicates that, and as we see no one seems to agree on who won those rounds. Some have round 3 for Canelo, someone else has it for Bivol. Some have 2 for Canelo, some have 2 for Bivol, etc. But you are acting like there's only 1 way to score each of those rounds, that they're not even close, that they each can only be scored for Bivol, that it's unreasonable to score any of those rounds to Canelo. Yet about half the reddit fans scored those rounds for Canelo. Many good, logical, normal people think Canelo won those rounds. So who are you to get on your high horse and tell anyone that those rounds can't be scored for Canelo. Each of those rounds are objectively close and hard to score. You're painting a picture that Bivol dominated those rounds or something which is complete and utter nonsense.
     
  12. lordlosh

    lordlosh Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Just ignore him omfg. I can't see what he is writing, but i can just imagine, knowing how delude this guy is. :D
     
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  13. Quina74

    Quina74 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Literally doesn't know what he's talking about. I've suspected he's a bot for a long time. Can't give one ounce of criticism to Canelo and praises him like he's a god. Full on weirdo
     
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  14. shadow111

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    A bot doesn't put this kind of sustained beating on you. A bot doesn't put together reddit screenshots and spoon feed it to you. You know, it doesn't have to be like this. I took the time to do that because I'm trying to help you!!
     
  15. Quina74

    Quina74 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Absolutely deranged