Seriously crazy .. always worth another watch ... what the hell was wrong with Joe putting his kid in there with Mike ? This content is protected
Possible. Just as possible and more probable Joe weathers the storm and by the 6th rd Tyson begins to slow and Joe turns the tide, slowly grinds him down for a 10th or 11th rd TKO. Marvis Frazier wasn't on the same planet as far as skill and ability as his father. Holmes destroyed Marvis Frazier in similar fashion. Would he do the same to Joe? No of course not. Marvis Frazier got to where he was by careful match making and name recognition.
I very much agree. I was just about to post almost exactly what you’ve stated. Marvis’ Old Man took harder and more numerous punches from Foreman and kept getting back up. I don’t see Tyson landing as big and as often as Foreman did and Joe would obviously cope far better than Marvis if Tyson did sneak a big shot through. Meanwhile Joe would still be coming forward, crowding Tyson and meting out his own punishment - Marvis threw nothing to dissuade Tyson at all.
Tyson will land twice as much as Foreman, he's way faster and more accurate. No he won't, he has the same faith.
Tyson was more skilled offensively than Foreman and had quicker combos, the uppercut that first hurt Marvis was like the uppercut that lifted Frazier off his feet, Tyson`s uppercuts were better than Foremans and delivered in combos.
I don’t believe so - Foreman was taller and stronger than Tyson, he used those advantages to keep Joe off him and put Joe into perfect range for his bombs. No, again, I don’t believe so. Foreman’s uppercut was clearly more powerful. Tyson was shorter and lesser reached than Foreman, he won’t enjoy the luxury of preventing Joe getting in close and therefore Tyson will not avoid getting hit by Frazier’s own brand of up close and personal fire. - As was the case back in Mike’s day, people are often mislead and disproportionately awe struck by Mike’s uber fast successes against much lesser opposition - causing them to make the mistake of extrapolating those successes into similar success against much higher quality comp. - and we saw during Mike’s actual career that the heady projections didn’t always manifest - and not by a long shot - certainly Douglas was afforded all of 90 seconds by many “experts” - that forecast was, shall we say, slightly off.
It’s actually a shame that Marvis Frazier couldn’t capitalize more on his potential. He was actually a pretty decent fighter
Marvis Frazier was no compare to Joe Frazier. just same name. Cannot live up to name of family. loss knockout1 round with Larry Holmes. loss knockout 1 round with Mike Tyson.
That's irrelevant. Tyson has a completely different style. Tyson doesn't need that, he will be more than happy if Frazier comes to him. Tyson will always win an exchange of punches, he's far better at it. No proof of that, and even if it was, it's irrelevant. Tyson was better at landing it and more accurate. As I've already said, Tyson doesn't need to do that, it's good if Frazier comes to him, it will be like a lamb coming to the slaughter. First of all, there's no proof Frazier is higher opposition, he's just a more well known name. Second, it's all about styles. If Frazier comes forward, he stands no chance whatsoever. Douglas was better prepared than ever and Tyson was not prepared at all. Also, Douglas and Frazier fight in a completely different manner. Therefore, that fight is meaningless.
This was Tyson moment to shine. He couldn't take it easy on Marvis, even if he liked him. All eyes were on him.