the what fights did you watch today\scorecard thread.

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  1. OP_TheJawBreaker

    OP_TheJawBreaker NOBODY hit like that guy! Full Member

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    Guty Espadas vs Chan Hee Park
    Round 1: Three knockdowns occure in this round. Park was down briefly by a left hook and Espadas was dropped twice once with an overhand right and once with left hook quickly after they were separated from their clinch - Park

    Round 2: It was just as brutal as round 1. They both stood toe to toe, firing long combinations hoping to put the other man out. Both were equal in this round, Espadas briefly hurt Park with left right combination but Park would later put Espadas down for good with a counter left hook which left the crowd wild - Knockout

    Thoughts: Another great war. A fascinating fight with multiple knockdowns despite their low workrate. I love the fight so much and hopefully you'd enjoy it too:
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  2. scartissue

    scartissue Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Pernell Whitaker v Julio Cesar Chavez (welterweight title)

    Round 1: 10-10 Even
    Round 2: 10-9 Chavez
    Round 3: 10-9 Whitaker
    Round 4: 10-9 Whitaker
    Round 5: 10-10 Even
    Round 6: 10-9 Whitaker
    Round 7: 10-9 Whitaker
    Round 8: 10-9 Whitaker
    Round 9: 10-10 Even
    Round 10: 10-9 Whitaker
    Round 11: 10-9 Whitaker
    Round 12: 10-9 Chavez

    Total: 118-113 Whitaker (actual scores: 115-113 Whitaker and two scores of 115-115 for a majority Draw)

    I was always a big JCC man back in the day and recall watching this intently, but not to score. I didn't think much of it then which is why it took me so long to come around to this again. But clearly, on my card, Whitaker deserved the call. He offered angles galore that had Chavez trying to reset, reset, reset. Meanwhile Whitaker was popping Chavez with clean shots. Clearly, on my card, he should have got the decision. It wasn't exciting, but just for historical reference I needed to check this out again.
     
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  3. Jel

    Jel Obsessive list maker Full Member

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    I haven’t been able to bring myself to rewatch it. I remember being really excited about it in the lead up to it as it was the p4p 1 and 2 facing each other but I’d never seen Whitaker fight before and didn’t know what his style was like. I thought it was going to be an exciting fight.
     
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  4. Jel

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    Terrence Crawford v Shawn Porter

    Very solid win from Crawford against a game but somewhat limited challenger. Crawford gave me the impression that he thought he had the fight under complete control but he didn’t. Porter tried to upset his rhythm and was successful over the first six rounds before Crawford started to turn it up a notch from the 7th round.

    The official scoring was a bit tighter than mine but Crawford was having things his way a few rounds before the stoppage. Porter’s corner stopped it but there’s no doubt he would have carried on had he been allowed - his reaction to the second knockdown showed that.

    1 10-9
    2 9-10
    3 9-10
    4 10-9
    5 10-9 (close, can make a case either way. Crawford needs to step it up a bit though)
    6 9-10 (scrappy, but I thought Porter edged it)
    7 10-9
    8 10-9
    9 10-9
    (87-84)
    10 Crawford TKO Porter
     
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  5. Dynamicpuncher

    Dynamicpuncher Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I always thought the fight was pretty close and competitive after 6 rounds, but in the 2nd half Whitaker took over.
     
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  6. OP_TheJawBreaker

    OP_TheJawBreaker NOBODY hit like that guy! Full Member

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    Bennie Briscoe vs Al Quinney
    Round 1: Briscoe fighting effectively on the outside, constantly tracking, weaving and countering. Quinney threw a lot of punches and many combinations but Briscoe always seemed to effectively slip all of them and countered back with hard popping left jabs and straight rights. He staggered Quinney badly to the ropes with a heavy jab but didn't bother to pour more onto his opponent. He then drop Quinney down with a terrific counter right but again didn't seem to go for the kill and the bell ended a what seems to be a good round 1 - Briscoe

    Round 2: Despite being staggered twice in the first round, Quinney somehow wasn't afraid to open up more in this round. He threw multiple left right combinations and was always flurrying. Briscoe again defended easily and smashed him with a looping right hand that dropped him hard. He then finish Quinney off by decking him twice more with the last one being another smashing right to the jaw - Knockout

    Thoughts: Not much bodypunching shown by Briscoe in this fight, mainly becuz he was focusing more onn effectively countering on the outside. Quinney showed an amazing losing effort but has no answer for Briscoe's punching power and relentless pressure. A pretty good fight while it lasted and highly recommend you to watch it.

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  7. Fogger

    Fogger Father, grandfather and big sports fan. Full Member

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    Thanks for posting OP. I don't know much about Quinney but the man showed a lot of heart. Every time he was knocked down he got up and threw punches designed to KO Briscoe. Briscoe was relentless and kept pressure on Quinney throughout. A very good, stay busy win for Bad Bennie.
     
  8. roughdiamond

    roughdiamond Ridin' the rails... Full Member

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    Luis Ibarra vs Betulio Gonzalez

    Okay, first off, it's been a while since I've scored, so if my RBR looks funny to you then please point it out :lol: Anyway, I decided to check this one out, with the iron man Betulio Gonzalez battling the highly underrated Panamanian southpaw Luis Ibarra, who when rarely mentioned is (unfairly) known for his crushing losses. This was a measured match - very measured in Gonzalez's case. He rarely threw, but when he did he was very accurate and almost always scored. However, it wasn't enough in my view to win against Ibarra, who was the general all fight long. He simply kept the same game plan all throughout - box long in the centre, work the body some and impede Gonzalez with billy-goat tactics when he got close. He got exactly what he wanted too, as Betulio looked hesitant to push in on him. Ibarra continuously landed his right hook late as he noticed Gonzalez aiming for the single body shot. Still, I thought the mid rounds were very close in terms of action, but Gonzalez's sharpness was not enough to deter me from Ibarra's overall generalship and activity. Overall a decent match with a steady pace. Score below in 10 point must, as I truthfully cannot be assed to use a different scoring system.

    Ibarra : Gonzalez

    1: 10 - 9
    2: 9 - 10
    3: 10 - 9
    4: 10 - 9
    5: 10 - 10
    6: 10 - 10

    59 - 57

    7: 10 - 9
    8: 10 - 10
    9: 9 - 10
    10: 10 - 9
    11: 10 - 9
    12: 10 - 9

    59 - 56

    13: 9 - 10
    14: 10 - 9
    15: 10 - 9

    29 - 28

    Total: 147 - 141 IBARRA

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  9. lufcrazy

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    Joshua vs Ruiz

    Fight starts off as expected, Joshua tagging Ruiz from rage, seeming to dictate the pace of the fight.

    Ruiz is coming closer, but isn't threatening an awful lot right now.

    In the third AJ meets Ruiz up close and drops him with a big left hook, but as he goes in for the kill Ruiz lands a huge left of his own which sends AJ back pedalling around the ring.

    Ruiz drops him twice, and AJ never really recovers.

    Ruiz bullies AJ around the ring over the next few rounds and ultimately drops AJ twice forcing the stoppage.
     
  10. lufcrazy

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    Joshua:1,2,3,4,5,6,7,9,10,11,12
    Ruiz: 8

    Meh. Not even wasting my time on a write up.
     
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  11. lufcrazy

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    AJ vs Pulev

    Nowhere near as dominant as i remember.

    AJ controlled the first 3 getting two knock downs, but then j thought Pulev showed a lot of experience and composure to take every round from the 4th onwards.

    But then AJ found a home for his uppercut and two more knockdowns later it was all over.
     
  12. scartissue

    scartissue Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    After watching Chavez-Whitaker the other night I needed a good fight to put me back on track. However, the next fight I had penciled in on my list was Robin Reid v Sugarboy Malinga. Oh, man, after 3 rounds I aborted that endeavor. I just said to myself, 'Life is too short'. Funny enough, Jim Watt, commentating at ringside actually had those first 3 rounds Even and joked about it that that was the first time he ever had that. Not that they were so evenly matched, just that nobody was doing anything. Anyways, I found a cracking little contest to fill the void, which was just what the doctor ordered.

    Brian Viloria v Edgar Sosa (vacant light flyweight title)

    Round 1: 10-9 Viloria
    Round 2: 10-9 Sosa
    Round 3: 10-9 Sosa
    Round 4: 10-10 Even
    Round 5: 10-9 Viloria
    Round 6: 10-9 Sosa
    Round 7: 10-9 Viloria
    Round 8: 10-9 Sosa
    Round 9: 10-9 Sosa
    Round 10: 10-9 Sosa
    Round 11: 10-9 Sosa
    Round 12: 10-9 Sosa

    Total: 117-112 Sosa (actual scores: 114-114, 115-113 and another 115-113 both for Sosa for a majority win)

    Again, this was just a terrific little contest, which I felt the judges had way too close. Indeed, even Wally Matthews, commentating at ringside with Al Bernstein mentioned he wouldn't be surprised if anyone had the 12th round a 10-8 for Sosa. I would agree that it was a damn good round for Sosa, but clearly none of the judges were awarding big rounds, at least not to Sosa. But I'm glad the right fighter got it in a real gem of a fight.
     
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  13. Dynamicpuncher

    Dynamicpuncher Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I wish I'd known you was going to watch Malinga vs Reid, I would of straight up told you to never ever watch it.

    Reid had one of his strange nights, kind of like he had vs Magee. Where he decided he didn't want to fight for some reason, and Malinga pretty much won because he threw a few more punches.

    Horrible fight and a ridiculous performance from Reid, I don't like to criticize fighters because Reid can be a handful for alot of Super Middleweights. And has had some fine performances vs Calzaghe, Wharton, but I think even he would say his performance vs Malinga was terrible, i'm not sure what happened there.

    I watched another fight like this few months ago Pedroza vs Taylor, which like you I decided to not score. Because Taylor was running the whole night, and it cancelled out Pedroza not being able to find any offence, another stinker of a fight but atleast Pedroza tried to make a fight I guess.
     
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  14. scartissue

    scartissue Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    D, glad you mentioned the result. I was so disinterested after shutting it off after 3 rounds, I couldn't even be bothered to look up the result on boxrec. A horrible, horrible fight. Every so often 2 fighters' styles just don't gel.
     
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    scartissue Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Terry Norris v Donald Curry (jr. middleweight title)

    Round 1: 10-9 Norris
    Round 2: 10-9 Norris
    Round 3: 10-9 Norris
    Round 4: 10-9 Norris
    Round 5: 10-9 Norris
    Round 6: 10-10 Even
    Round 7: 10-8 Norris (scores a knockdown)
    Round 8: Norris stops Curry

    Total: 70-63 Norris (actual scores: 69-64, 68-64 and 69-65 all for Norris)

    To begin, this fight, like Chavez v Rosario, is like my go to fight for entertainment. I just loved this fight. Such an array of fast, clean, hard punches galore from both sides of the fence. If there is any controversy here it would be the scoring of the 7th round. One judge had it 10-8, another had it 10-9 (both for Norris) and one had it 10-10. It was a funny round. I was prepared that last 1/2 minute to give the round to Curry. He had done enough. But late in the round Norris dropped Curry for a legit knockdown. Again, I was leaning to Curry but not by much before the knockdown, so I gave it a traditional 10-8. But I can see a 10-9 or the 10-10. It depends on how the perception of how well one had done in the round before the knockdown. It reminded me of how I scored a round in the Juan Laporte-Ruben Castillo fight. I had Castillo winning a round fairly comfortably until he got dropped very late in the round and I believe I gave it a 10-10. In this one, it was close. If I watched it again, I could see the 10-9 more than the 10-10. Anyways, even though I had Norris well ahead, every round was close and entertaining. It was Norris' whirlwind attack that had him dominating on my card.
     
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