Five Best Fighters Since Ray Leonard.

Mteslamiller · May 19, 2022

Pimp C said: ↑

For the majority of pbfs career arum told him who to fight. That's ridiculous pbfs resume is excellent you can't fight everyone.

Also pac ducked a prime pbf because of testing.
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I feel that it was the other way around.

Zhuge Liang · May 19, 2022

Based on achievements :

Floyd Mayweather Jr.

Manny Pacquiao

Roy Jones Jr.

Bernard Hopkins

Saul Canelo Alvarez (hate to admit it, but..)

divac · May 19, 2022

Julio Cesar Chavez
Evander Holyfield
Finito Lopez
Juan Manuel Marquez
Manny Pacquiao

Guerra · May 19, 2022

I feel sweet pea should be a definite answer alobng with Pac/May and RJJ
Number 5 is up for debate. Bhop imo

Mteslamiller · May 20, 2022

PernellSweetPea said: ↑

Not at all. This is an opinion.. This is why we post on here. My criteria for greatness has to do with fighting everyone all the time and having confidence. I feel Floyd and Roy lacked some great character strengths, which affect how I rate them on an ATG list since that variable means a lot to me, and the fighters I admire would fight everyone. Look at Marvin Hagler, he knew he was the best or Chavez. Manny was the same. Vlad? Again criteria. he is bigger than most guys he fought, so I put that in as one of my variables, which helped Lennox or Fury. It is not their fault, but Tyson who was smaller gets credit for chopping down bigger guys. Just an opinion on a boxing opinion posting.

If you think everyone is going to have the same list you do, then that is rather naive. I didn't tear down anyone's listand being sensitive on here does not matter too much since these are opinions about boxers and nothing personal. I don't see not putting Roy and Floyd on my list is hating at all. That is just not true. That seems to be almost using the word hate when it does not apply.. How did I hate? I think they are top fighters, just not ATG top 5. I suppose I hate my favorite fighter Thomas Hearns because he is not on my list, although I think he is underrated.

I am not claiming they ducked they did. Floyd avoided top guys and Roy also. I wanted Roy to fighting Benn or Eubank or Nunn. He knew who to fight. If hating is saying that, this message board should be called www.hateforum24.com.

I respect your opinion, but we all have different criteria. That is why we all like different fighters and personalities.
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PernellSweetPea, you are obviously a Whitaker fan, and you mentioned that Thomas Hearns was your favorite fighter. Where do you rank those two among the greatest of all time?

Pimp C · May 20, 2022

Mteslamiller said: ↑

I feel that it was the other way around.
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Pbf fought the majority of his career under arum those are facts. Also Roach went on record saying it was their fault the fight didn't happen the first time because they were against testing. Those are facts.

Furey · May 20, 2022

In no order

Floyd
Roy
Pac
Pea
Holyfield

ellerbe · May 20, 2022

Pimp C said: ↑

Pbf fought the majority of his career under arum those are facts. Also Roach went on record saying it was their fault the fight didn't happen the first time because they were against testing. Those are facts.
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"TAKE THE TEST MANNY"-Pascal Voice

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