Do you think the judging in Canelo vs Bivol was corrupt/biased

You got exposed, because you were telling me how shoulder punches couldn't be scored. LOL that didn't work out too well for you now did it. Turns out you were clueless.

 

I wouldn't mind but it's his constant lying and moving of goal posts.
He's been battered in every thread yet thinks otherwise. A truly deluded cretin.
I won't be wasting time on someone so dishonest. I have better things to do and would rather chat with normal people than a complete mental case.
He's now on ignore and it feels good.

 

You were the liar who claimed that shoulder punches weren't scoring shots. I knew they were. Ouch, hurts doesn't it.

 

They tried to bail out Vegas after the 5-1 odds but Canelo failed the championship rounds.

 

I'll say it like this 8 Clear rounds for Bivol
2 clear rounds for Canelo
2 close rounds.

again people **** on the offical scores and say they didnt give canelo one round.
dont go the exact opposite way.

but Canelo getting all 4 of the first rounds is really bad. it was probably 2-2 and canelo might have only one a round more after (the 9th)

 

If you saw that possibly as 8-4 you just like Canelo, there's no rational way to give him more than 3, and he really only deserved 1.

 

No you cannot have an opinion, you said to me there's no point moving on to round 2 until round 1 is sorted. So you haven't got a strong enough opinion to answer the thread on this respect. You also once told me that close hard to score rounds should not all be given the same way, so even if you concur that all 4 are close hard to score rounds, you still wouldn't give them all Canelo.

I know exactly what I replied, as do you, we had a conversation already on it.

 

This topic is about do you think the judging was corrupt, not whether you agreed with their score. If there is an argument for Canelo winning each of the first 4 rounds, then what's corrupt about giving each of those rounds to him? When I said it's important to split close hard to score rounds, that doesn't mean that it would be corrupt if you didn't do that, only that you should if you are not confident how to score such rounds.

The question here is was the judging corrupt. I can tell you that after studying Round 1 in great detail, scoring that for Canelo was not particularly hard for me to score for him because he finished the round strong, landed the harder shots, was the more effective puncher, was the ring general, was the effective aggressor, etc. If you know how to score rounds properly, Canelo really checked all the boxes in that round and frankly it was a pretty easy round to score. However most fans would probably find it harder to score because they don't know what to look for. Like for example, not thinking that shoulder hits can be scored which was a reason why Canelo won that round.

In Canelo GGG 1 rounds 4-6 or Canelo GGG 2 rounds 11 and 12, the rounds that I felt a need to split, neither fighter checked all the boxes in those rounds like Canelo did in round 1 vs Bivol. Those were far more difficult for me to score, so I thought splitting them was appropriate. So it's important that you understand that, first of all, even in situations where I think it should be done, to get the most accurate score possible, it doesn't mean that it would be corrupt to not do that. Corrupt judging goes far beyond just agreeing or not agreeing with their score. if you find it hard to give Canelo each of the first 4 rounds because you found each of those hard to score and think that you should split close hard to score rounds, then that's one thing. It's another thing to claim that not doing that is corrupt.

 

you don’t understand, they obviously tried their best to swing it his way or give him a draw.

 

Pathetic

 

No, it says corrupt or biased. You said to me if all the close rounds go to one fighter then that is biased.

Since you haven't yet scored rounds 2, 3 and 4 I don't see how you can possibly have an opinion.

You're reluctance to score rounds 2, 3 and 4 implies that you are worried you will actually agree with the thread starter here.

 

I agree. I gave Canelo 4 rounds the day of the fight.
2,4,6,9

with people brining up the punch stats to be against canelo I'll say that in those
rounds the power shots were the same. Canelo landed a big uppercut they were very close rounds.

I felt 4 and 9 were clearly canelo
I felt rounds 1,3,5,7,8,10,11,12 were clearly bivol
and I felt 2 and 6 were swing rounds which I gave to Canelo..

I have no issues with 118-110 Bivol.

117-111
116-112

also seemed okay. and that's what a lot of press row and the UK broadcast had it.

It was clear Bivol one 8-4 being the best case scenario for Canelo in this kind of fight is a very wide loss. but people really want to say Canelo lost 14 rounds in a 12 round fight.

 

2 and 4 Canelo. the first 4 rounds were fairly close though I dont think Canelo actually swept them. I felt 2-2
lots of Bivols jabs were getting blocked Canelo was landing the better looking power shots. down the stretch in the last rounds Bivol was dominating rounds but the first few rounds were feel out

 

Shadow doesn't think he swept them neither. He just likes to argue.