Do you think the judging in Canelo vs Bivol was corrupt/biased

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Do you think the judging in Canelo vs Bivol was corrupt

  1. Yes

  2. No

  3. Not corrupt, but it's definitely biased

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  1. lordlosh

    lordlosh Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Round 6 for Clenslo based on what? Being dominated by Bivol? Even the dog..... compubox has Bivol outland him heavily in that round. No chance in hell he won that round.
     
  2. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace Full Member

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    So when I said you don't have an opinion, you mow agree with that post and concede the point?
     
  3. KO KIDD

    KO KIDD Loyal Member Full Member

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    But they didnt

    There have been worse robberies

    Who bribes to lose?
     
  4. vargasfan1985

    vargasfan1985 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    My point is going over your head
     
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  5. BeantownAll

    BeantownAll Well-Known Member Full Member

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    It was corrupt/biased - but maybe not in the way that people realize.

    I think the scorecards were "diplomatic". By that, I mean that they were designed to keep multiple, opposing groups happy. Here's what I mean by that.

    Canelo is a hugely lucrative fighter for Hearn and De La Hoya. But he is enormous pain in the ass for just about every other promoter out there because having Canelo flit back and forth between several divisions as he's been doing the past half-dozen years has caused these promoters really big problems in lining up fights for their own fighters in those divisions. Everything is being made to orbit around Canelo/Eddie/Oscar. It ain't great when somebody unifies belts and then runs off to another division and then runs back. And indisposed folks like Frank Warren, Bob Arum, etc. have considerable weight that they can throw around, too.

    So cards that (rightfully) acknowledge Bivol as the winner while handing Canelo an "attaboy-real-close-to-call" (however, unearned) loss do a nice job of keeping all the opposing forces as happy as they can be. A lot of boxing fans wordwide are starting to feel a real pinch from economic forces and keeping promoters happy and forcing Canelo to pick a lane (looks like 168 lbs) is probably an essential thing for the sport right now.

    For the record - I only saw Canelo as clearly winning one round and felt he may have done just enough to nick a second one. But not more than that. Bivol boxed his ears off.
     
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  6. shadow111

    shadow111 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Cool story bro, but nahhh. Canelo roughed him up in rounds 1-4, outworked him in round 9, and just gassed late allowing Bivol to win it at the end.
     
  7. BeantownAll

    BeantownAll Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Would agree about the gassing part. I think Round 9 (the only round I thought he definitely won) was his last gasp. Maybe he takes Rd 3 with those hooks to the body and uppercuts. But no other rounds. Not one other round.
     
  8. shadow111

    shadow111 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Many people have given him rounds 1-4. You taking a hard line stance against him winning those rounds just doesn't add up. He was blocking very well early on, preventing Bivol from landing clean, while landing the harder heavier shots, and roughing Bivol up against the ropes. And don't forget about the shoulder/bicep bombs, those count too.
     
  9. BeantownAll

    BeantownAll Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I think Bivol did lots of really good work in Rds 1, 2 with that jab of his and some straight rights. Bivol definitely took those rounds.

    Giving Round 3 to Canelo? Yeah, I'm fine with that.

    Round 4? Canelo did well in spots but Bivol takes it by pinning Canelo on the ropes and unloading a series of heavy shots on him.
     
  10. shadow111

    shadow111 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    It's just interesting to me which rounds out of the first 4 people deem can be given to Canelo, because it seems to change depending on who you ask. Just the other day someone else was telling me that Canelo clearly lost rounds 1 and 3, but won rounds 2 and 4.

    People see what they want to see, each of those rounds were good Canelo rounds. Could you give some of them to Bivol? Sure he did well enough to keep them close but only because he was busier, not because he was landing clean or better than Canelo.
     
  11. ikrasevic

    ikrasevic Who is ready to suffer for Christ (the truth)? Full Member

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    I voted that the trial was not corrupt in terms of the unanimous decision of the judges for Bivoll.
    But later I see that Bivoll had to win every round for the result to be 115-113.
    https://www.*******.com/canelo-vs-bivol-compubox-punch-stats--166060
    In that sense, the result is more than corrupt.
    What if Bivoll didn't win every round, 120-108 to be exact?
     
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  12. lufcrazy

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    Scored the fight yet?
     
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  13. Mod-Mania

    Mod-Mania Boxing Addict Full Member

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    If Canelo got the decision i'd struggle to come up with one, even Lewis-Holyfield I and Whitaker-Chavez were more competitive.
     
  14. HolDat

    HolDat Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Sounds way too bias to score a fight objectively.
     
  15. Quina74

    Quina74 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Your opinion on anything Canelo related is invalid due to your extreme bias.

    I've debunked rounds 1-3. Canelo didn't win any of them. Your argument for round 1 (and I suspect, you've already made up your mind for rounds 2 and 3 despite not scoring them) is based on Canelo landing an uppercut and a two shoulder shots whilst you credit Canelo for grazing punches/inside glove slaps and discredit Bivols work including grazing punches you lmao

    Forums no. 1 Canelo cuck