Canelo Alvarez: I'm Still The Best In The World, No Other Fighter Takes Risks Like I Do

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  1. Blg Man

    Blg Man Member Full Member

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    "Tell me another fighter who is trying in other categories, going down and up in weight, wanting to achieve different kinds of things. Nobody has done that.

    "I do it. I risk everything to keep making history when I don't need to risk anything. I've already achieved so many things. I'm in a position where I don't have to risk anything, and I still do it, and nobody does that when they are in a position like the one I'm in. So personally, I still feel I'm the best in the world."
     
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  2. Chuck Norris

    Chuck Norris Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    STFU you bum you lost.
     
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  3. tinman

    tinman Loyal Member Full Member

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    This should be kept between him and his therapist. He should work out his mental issues in private and not in public. Good luck to him.
     
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  4. JOKER

    JOKER Froat rike butterfry, sting rike MFER! banned Full Member

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  5. DramaShow

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    He mustn't have heard of Usyk then, the guy he thought he could move up to Heavyweight and beat
     
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  6. Themessiah

    Themessiah El Jefe Full Member

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    Usyk fought guys in their own backyard, no rehydration clause or any of that BS, cleared out CW, became HW Champion. Not sure why others are mentioning Crawford and Spence when Usyk is clear of all of them
     
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  7. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    Loma has fought 11 world champions in just 18 fights and 15 of his fights were world title fights. Unheard of

    Conversely, Clenelo has fought 19 in 61 fights

    Loma is giving away much bigger physical advantages at 135 than Clen is at 175

    Clen 178-180 with a 70'' reach
    Bivol 183 with a 72'' reach
    Kovalev 180-182 with a 72.5'' reach

    Loma 138-140 with a 65.5'' reach is routinely giving away 7-12lbs bare minimum and against the likes of Commey and surely Nakatani he's giving away like 15lbs and a natural leprechaun division fighter giving away that amount of weight is different to ones from the higher divisions

    Hell, a whole bunch of the 130 and 135 pounders Loma's fought have got longer reaches or are close in length to the 175 pounders Clenelo's fought

    Walters 73'' reach
    Commey 71'' reach
    Campbell 71'' reach
    Nakatani 71'' reach
    Pedraza 70.5'' reach
    Linares 69'' reach
    Lopez 68.5'' reach
    Rigo 68'' reach
    Salido 67'' reach
    Marriaga 67'' reach
    Sosa 67'' reach
    Crolla 67'' reach
    Martinez 67'' reach
    Rodriguez 69'' reach
    Russell Jr. 64'' reach
    Ramirez 65.5'' reach

    People act like Clen vs Kov and Twink vs Barrios were David vs Goliath affairs but they were giving away 2-4lbs and 5-6lbs absolute max and 2.5'' and 3.5'' in reach respectively. Loma is routinely facing Goliath's who hold bigger/much bigger physical advantages over him in terms of weight and reach

    Loma looks the picture of health, fully rehydrated, and almost identical as he looks in the ring at weigh ins. In fact, he looked healthy on the scales at 126, whereas some of these giants and much naturally bigger opponents he's facing at 135 look like death.

    And he's not weakening his bigger/much bigger opponents with catchweights, rehydration clauses, or short camps. He's fight them at full strength

    Kovalev and Bivol look healthy on the scales at 175. That's because they're not rehydrating a ton of weight after the weigh in

    ''Skinny Fimo now, but then you get the monster tomorrow''

    ''By tomorrow I'm going to look like a different man. A whole new man''
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    Teo looking like he's just walked out of a concentration camp, his face all sucked in and deathly ill looking and slurring his words. Loma not skipping a single meal all week looking no different to how he looks on fight night

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    Commey's trainer

    “Richard is going to be an incredibly large Lightweight and he is going to impose his will and do what he does best on the day''

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    And Clen jacked himself full of PEDs in order to help him bridge the gap to campaign at higher weight classes

    Sit your ginger ass down
     
    Serge, May 28, 2022
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  8. Quina74

    Quina74 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Going up and down in weight..

    He means jumping up and down in weight cherrypicking.

    Cherrypicked old man Kovalev, jumping two weight classes in the process for a spar. Then mysteriously went back down. Jumped to 168 for blatant preplanned cherrypicking -

    -160lber BJS who won the 168 belt off nobody Shefat Isufi WBO gift. He hadnt had a world level fight since Lemieux in 2017. Has had multiple close on off fights with Ryder (arguable loss) , Eubank, Andy Lee, Akavov (arguably loss). At all his 168lb performances looked mediocre, looked meh against shot Murray prior to the Clen fight.
    -Ryder Robber Callum Smith whose best win was one armed groves. Clen slapped on a 4 week camp where Smith struggled to finding sparring partners (let me guess fangirls, this ain't Canelos fault? Durhh)
    -failed Mayweather clone 5 IQ points Plant looked meh against Truax fights before Clen and has an absolutely dog pile of a resume.

    But Canelo's daring to be great at?!?!

    This doesn't mention his numerous robberies - 36yo GGG x2, Lara. Arguable loss to Trout
     
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  9. chacal

    chacal F*** the new normal Full Member

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    he's right. He could have pulled a gg and have stayed in the same division beating bums for decades, and he didnt do it. I thank him for not doing that.
     
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  10. Wizbit1013

    Wizbit1013 Drama go, and don't come back Full Member

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    Shadow must be his PR guy
     
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  11. Dannymita

    Dannymita Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Not much of a risk if you've got an iron chin and 5 rounds already in the bank before the ringwalk..**** off copperbollocks

    Your a great fighter...and it's great to see a fighter fight everyone..but don't act like the playing field isn't heavily tilted in your favour
     
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  12. chacal

    chacal F*** the new normal Full Member

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    that comparisson is nonsense. Canelo was a pro when he was 15 yo, you cant compare total fights and championship fights when you become pro a 15.

    but anyways, I'm saying something that everybody knows, it's only that nobody cares.
     
    chacal, May 28, 2022
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  13. miniq

    miniq AJ IS A BODYBUILDING BUM Full Member

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    Canelo lost every time he fought someone who came to win

    He's a hypejob who's lucky Bivol didn't come out of 1st gear

    Real great champions can beat other great champions in the fashion Fury & Usyk can. they are the upper echolon. Canelo is a mere skidmark on their pants.

    If BJS wasn't a mess and managed to secure him in 2016/7 ish he would have done the business also.

    Crawfish & Canelo sucking into P4P shows they are not the champions they think they are. Loma fell for it also. Usyk & Fury? Give no damns they find a way to win. Usyk will only come unstuck fighting men twice his size. Fury has shown not a man born form his mother can beat him in a fight although there are people who believe he can be beat over the distance and funnily enough people think Usyk is the man who can do it. No surprise.
     
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  14. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    Yeah I can

    Loma was campaigning down at 106 when he was 17 but clowns are always trying to discredit fighters who turned pro much later when they're fully grown for not moving up as many divisions as ones who turned pro in their teens

    Fact is Loma has fought 11 world champions in just 18 fights, more or way more than all his peers have in more or way more fights and 15 of his total fights were world title fights

    I give Clen credit for what he's achieved and not only did I have him P4P#1 prior to the loss against Pastor Dimity whilst factoring his stacked to heaven deck and all the controversy that has been synonymous with his career, I even have him ranked in my top 4 now after suffering that loss due to the risks he's taken and fighting at higher weights but many are awfully reluctant to do the same when it comes to Loma
     
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  15. cleglue1

    cleglue1 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Canelo's biggest accomplishment in his whole career was getting a decision win over GGG. You can give him some credit for imposing his will on Caleb plant too. Everything else is crap. 30 years from now, nobody will say hey remember that time Canelo went up to 168 and beat Callum Smith.
     
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