Prime Tyson Fury v The Entire Lineal Heavyweight Championship - A Gauntlet Exercise

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  1. Tockah

    Tockah Ingo's Bingo Full Member

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    What if Prime Tyson Fury fought every Lineal Heavyweight Champion in order by way of running a gauntlet.
    Imagine Fury uses a time machine and challenges each lineal champ on their best night in the ring.

    Some rules.

    -Each opponent is at their respective prime
    -He will fight each champion only once at their arguably prime (He will not be slaughtering 3 time world heavyweight champion Muhammad Ali in 1980)
    -Depending on the year the opponent is from will constitute the rules which Fury will fight under (ex. Prime Fury v Prime Willard would occur sometime between 1915 and 1919 and would have no neutral corner as it was not a rule at the time)
    -Tyson Fury is entirely rejuvenated following each win, he is fully rested.
    -Tyson Fury doesn't retain any damage or injury from previous fights.
    -Tyson Fury has no access to cocaine, or alcohol.

    How many champions would Fury beat and how far would he make it into the gauntlet? Who do you believe would defeat him first? Fury succeeds his run on the gauntlet if he defeats every champion up to prime Wlad.
     
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  2. Fogger

    Fogger Father, grandfather and big sports fan. Full Member

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    I have Ali, Foreman, Holmes, Lewis and W. Klitschko beating him. Others could possibly beat Fury but these five are the champs I would favor over Fury.
     
  3. Fergy

    Fergy Walking Dead Full Member

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    I don't see him getting past the "old Tommy Burns Ankle Bite ''!
     
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  4. Fergy

    Fergy Walking Dead Full Member

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    This.
     
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  5. ikrasevic

    ikrasevic Who is ready to suffer for Christ (the truth)? Full Member

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    And of these 5 listed champions, I would give Lewis the best chances, and Foreman or W. Klitschko the least.
    IMHO, of course.
    And I have one question. Would Tyson Fury recover from such a punch by Hashim Rahman (with the same strength in the same place)?
     
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  6. Stevie G

    Stevie G Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    If Fury can get up after being poleaxed by Deontay Wilder,it's a good chance that he'd recover from Rahman's shot.
    I see Ali,Lewis,Foreman and Holmes having the best chance of beating Fury. Muhammad and Larry the best and Foreman the least.
     
  7. cross_trainer

    cross_trainer Liston was good, but no "Tire Iron" Jones Full Member

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    I don't think he reaches the end. He'd be trying to go something like 40-0 against #1 ranked guys. Nobody in history did that. Someone is going to upset him.

    Granted, the early guys aren't as good. But per the terms of the thread, he's fighting them under their own rules. So it evens out a bit.
     
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  8. White Bomber

    White Bomber Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Foreman stands no chance, he's too slow and clumsy. Fury would beat him with ease, outbox him all night long.
    Ali and Holmes were great, but I don't see them beating Fury either, they lack the size.
    From the ones you mentioned, Wlad and Lewis are the only ones who can beat him.
    But correct me if I'm wrong, Wlad was never the lineal champ, since his brother held the WBC belt.
     
  9. ikrasevic

    ikrasevic Who is ready to suffer for Christ (the truth)? Full Member

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    Wlad became the line champion after a fight with Ruslan Chagaev. So he became the "people's champion", as the regular lineal champion Lenox Lewis retired.
    But correct me if I'm wrong.
     
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  10. thistle

    thistle Boxing Addict Full Member

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    1st off, up until LL, bar a few exceptions over the years - it IS a Different Division - Fury (and Co.) IS NOT a Heavyweight!!!

    so you're question should be Fury vs, all the S-HW Giants from about the late 80s on and all 'the Exceptions' thrown in, i.e Willard, Cannera, Baer and so on...

    I DO Not make him the favourite at all, he will lose approx 50%, at least, to all 10 of the S-HW Greats, because there surely can't be too many more than 10 - 20 of them.

    'IF' you want to include all HWs in History, it has to be a H2H, P4P EQUAL Match Up, because the Normal Size SMALL HW's today would be L-HWs & Cruiserweights TODAY and H2H FURY loses to damn near ALL of Them.

    Stop trying to make Fury out to be the Greatest Heavyweight in History, he IS NOT, he is Not even a HW, he is a S-HW Giant and MOST of them Are SUBPAR!!!
     
  11. swagdelfadeel

    swagdelfadeel Obsessed with Boxing

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    Ali is a clear favorite.

    I’d narrowly favor Liston and Holmes.

    Tyson and Foreman are 50-50 or at worse live underdogs.
     
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  12. cross_trainer

    cross_trainer Liston was good, but no "Tire Iron" Jones Full Member

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    I mean, with 40 or so fights, he might get a freak injury and lose one. Many top heavyweights have. Ali got his jaw broken. Liston got a shoulder injury. Patterson's back. Vitali. Holmes's arm (although that might have predated the fight.) Etc. Just from chance alone.
     
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  13. swagdelfadeel

    swagdelfadeel Obsessed with Boxing

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    Liston shoulder injuries also predated his fight with Ali.
     
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  14. cross_trainer

    cross_trainer Liston was good, but no "Tire Iron" Jones Full Member

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    Fair enough. That said, I'd stand by my wider point that weird stuff happens in the ring. Especially over 40+ fights against elite fighters.
     
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  15. Tockah

    Tockah Ingo's Bingo Full Member

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    In this hypothetical Fury is relieved of injury following each fight.

    Dude I'm not a fan of Fury. Really I'm not. Also the Heavyweight division didn't have a weight maximum so lay off. Christ.
    It wasn't a question it was a hypothetical, for fun. Don't be a jerk and tell me what my question should be. Who gives a ****, this was a hypothetical match up and if Fury would bomb out most champions, its just the unfortunate reality and I dont like it either. But don't be ignorant and deny it. Fury would certainly have been considered a heavyweight 50 years ago. The biggest one ever granted. But still a heavyweight you Idiot. Fury is the Heavyweight champion, not the Super Heavyweight Champion, he defends his belt in the heavyweight class. You're arguing for the sake of arguing and barely even answered the thread.

    Fury isn't the greatest heavyweight in history, I just wanted to imagine how he would fair against the greatest heavyweights on the terms of their era. I don't like Fury but for you don't need to hop in this thread to defend the heavyweight lineage's honor as some pseudo boxing intellectual. It isn't that deep, chill out and **** off if you want to be rude.