Did Juan Manuel Márquez win the war with Manny Pacquiao

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  1. Guerra

    Guerra Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Of course he did given how it ended.
    I think Pac won the first fight, second was a draw, marquez won the third and the fourth was ending in a ko either way.
    Marquez edged it and won. Even if you can say he was roided like hell he always had Pacs number like Norton to Ali.
    Those were great fights.
     
  2. FastSmith7

    FastSmith7 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Idk man, Joshua got caught being overconfident against a last minute replacement. He then won 11 rounds in the rematch.

    JMM vs Pacquiao, both guys knew how good they were, they didnt underestimate one another, the first 3 fights were very close and the final chapter ended the series conclusively.
     
  3. pincai

    pincai The Indonesian Thin Man Full Member

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    I don’t know what it means by winning the war..
    PAC team made a mistake, they were up 2-0-1 after the 3rd fight, but they keep bringing Marquez up in weight thinking they can knock him out.
    The 4th fight was never needed.

    Basically Marquez chased Pac for rematch after rematch and team Pac foolishly agreed to it.
    Now, after Marquez won the 4th fight, he never want to fight Pac again.. It is his right but to me it doesn’t seems fair given how many opportunity Pac awarded to him..
     
  4. titanic

    titanic Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Very This ! :campeon:
     
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  5. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    I think so. I didn't score any of the fights for Pacquiao personally but am happy to say they are all very close. It ended with Pacquiao unconscious though.
     
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  6. pincai

    pincai The Indonesian Thin Man Full Member

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    I spoke the truth ha3x
     
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  7. Ilesey

    Ilesey ~ Full Member

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    Yes. The way in which Marquez ended the rivalry speaks volumes for me.
     
  8. DaRealJT

    DaRealJT Boxing Addict Full Member

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    All boxers are on roids, though some are on better roids than others
     
  9. Flo_Raiden

    Flo_Raiden Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Yes JMM won the war given how their last fight ended, that’s really obvious. But Pac ended up having the last laugh.
     
  10. African Cobra

    African Cobra The Right Honourable Lord President of the Council banned Full Member

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    Yes he did. You can make the case he won all 4 contests but in the final one he closed the show emphatically. Perfect knockout really there was no need for another fight.
     
  11. northpaw

    northpaw Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I thought he won all 4 fights (he definitely won more rounds in fight 1) so I'd say so

    He's Sandy Sadler to Pac's Willie Pep
     
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  12. Impulse_0

    Impulse_0 Active Member Full Member

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    JMM won the war with the pharmacy certainly.

    I cannot say he won the war because he wouldn’t give Manny a return after Manny rematch 3X.

    It’s like when you are kids and you are playing a game with that douchebag you know who will quit/whine when they are losing and refuse to continue as soon as they win once. No one respects that.
     
  13. tinman

    tinman Loyal Member Full Member

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    He finally fought like the challenger in the 4th fight. Manny Steward said after the 3rd fight that Marquez only has himself to blame for the Pac losses. Because he didn't take the fight to Pac. Seems he took Stewards advice the 4th time around.
     
  14. Furey

    Furey EST & REG 2009 Full Member

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    Yes he did

    You can make a strong argument that he won the other fights and he finished up knocking Pac spark out
     
  15. Reinhardt

    Reinhardt Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    At minimum Marquez won 2 or 3 , the KO signifies he won the war. For Manny fans to complain about Marquez on roids is like Pablo Escobar complaining about cocaine smuggling.
     
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