Beterbiev is nearly unbeatable

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  1. tinman

    tinman Loyal Member Full Member

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    Artur is suffering from being too good for his own good. If he had struggled more in his career he would be higher regarded.

    If you examine his fighter profile he is almost unparalleled. He is the modern day Carlos Monzon.

    His genetic profile is almost perfect for boxing. He has tremendous natural strength. He is able to bully his opponents in the ring. He has tremendous natural power. Nobody can take his power. He has tremendous natural cardiovascular capacity. Which allows him to maintain his strength and power late into fights while his opponent tires. Artur never tires, he has an endless supply of oxygen. When you add this to his amatuer pedigree you have a fighter who is H2H a total beast.
     
  2. CST80

    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum Staff Member

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    Never say that when someone is going to face the second most, or maybe even the most brutal puncher in their division. So congrats, you just jinx him.
     
  3. tinman

    tinman Loyal Member Full Member

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    I agree. I am a fan of Smith, but a bigger Beterbiev fan. Smith hits very hard. He may hit even harder than Beterbiev. He might even be the single biggest puncher in boxing p4p. But he does not have the strength, skill or cardiovascular capacity to have anything other than a punchers chance.

    Smith could certainly win the fight. He can beat anybody. He punches that hard. He has absurd power. If he hits Beterbiev flush on the chin hes going down to the canvas and he may not be able to recover. He punches that hard.
     
  4. tinman

    tinman Loyal Member Full Member

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    Ask yourself what does it say that Canelo decided to fight a guy with 1 belt, 31 years old and in his prime. Versus a 37 year old Unified champ?

    If Bivol is considered the easy fight that indicates there is a monster in the LHW division. Imagine Beterbiev at 31? Would annihilate every LHW of the last 20 years with the possible exception of Kovalev.
     
  5. JunlongXiFan

    JunlongXiFan 45-6 in Kirks Chmpionshp Boxing Predictions 2022 Full Member

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    I really think Bivol will beat Beterbiev. I don't think the age would have changed anything, only it will be easier for Bivol.
     
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    Vegan Beast Grandpappy Ortiz Full Member

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  7. Lesion of Doom

    Lesion of Doom Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Think you are overrating Beterbiev a bit here. It isn't his fault, but 175 has been very poor during his run. He also was down on two cards at the time of the Nail stoppage, so he *can* be outboxed.

    He's awesome, tho, don't get me wrong. One of the naturally strongest guys at his weightclass in boxing. Maybe the strongest.
     
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  8. CleneloAnavarez

    CleneloAnavarez Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Beterbiev is too much of a brute at 175 (imagine GGG fighting JMWs). You need power or slickness from the gods to keep him away for 12 rounds.
    He is better than Canelo at shrinking the ring. I fear Bivol will have a terrible time along the ropes.
     
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  9. tinman

    tinman Loyal Member Full Member

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    To be outboxed you have to make it the full 12 rounds. In the 15 round era Beterbiev would shine even more.
     
  10. Lesion of Doom

    Lesion of Doom Boxing Addict Full Member

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    He was down on the cards after 9, so that's pretty late in the fight to be trailing. I agree that his style is one of attrition, but he's certainly not "nearly unbeatable". That's fanboy talk.
     
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  11. tinman

    tinman Loyal Member Full Member

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    Gvozdyk was receiving A-side cooking. The judges were paid off. He was viewed as the younger, more marketable fighter and Arum wanted the Gvozdyk push. If you examine the fight Gvozdyk wasn't landing. He was running around the ring hitting Beterbiev's forearms for the most part.
     
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  12. Sinew

    Sinew The Assassin Full Member

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    He's AWESOME . I like watching him fight . Not sure he can defeat Bivol.
     
  13. oldcanvasback

    oldcanvasback Active Member Full Member

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    good point. The way he retired Gvosdyk scared the **** out of everyone.
     
  14. PH|LLA

    PH|LLA VIP Member Full Member

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    what about speed.
     
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  15. tinman

    tinman Loyal Member Full Member

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    Speed is the most overrated attribute in boxing. It is completely unnecessary and is almost completely nullified by a well timed power shot to the noggin.

    You would have a point if this was the Lightweight or Welterweight division. Beterbiev fights in a puncher's division.