True or False: Floyd never defeated fighters as great as Crawford, Stevenson, Davis, Ennis, orSpence

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  1. BoxingIQ

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    Jaron Ennis? Shakur Stevenson? Devin Haney?
     
  3. Manfred

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    One can see flashes of greatness from those young fighters but none of them has the full Mayweather package.
     
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  4. BoxingIQ

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    I disagree. Jaron is basically dab judah2.0 with better fundamentals. Shakur is just as talented as Floyd was, and Haney is a generational talent
     
  5. BoxingIQ

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    I disagree. I think Floyd and Manny wouldn't be seen so highly in this era of 130, 135, 140, and 147 era
     
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    Floyd never fought Williams, Vernon, Sergio, or Winky. Same applies to him
     
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    They haven’t done anything yet.

    Let’s see how their careers play out.
     
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    But you’re basing that on divisions that have unproven fighters in them.
     
  9. Loudon

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    No, but those guys were at the higher weights, and he fought lots of other good fighters.

    Who has Haney etc fought in comparison?

    They’re only just starting to make waves.
     
  10. jabber74

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    Always felt Mayweather went through his entire career without that truly defining moment to prove his greatness. The one guy that could have done that was Pacquiao, (maybe), but he was KO'ed by Marquez and Mayweather waited five years past the due date to finally make the "Superfight". Even when they finally did get it on, it was a lousy fight and in fact I was in the minority that thought Manny won it.
     
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  11. BoxingIQ

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    Crawford won titles at 135, 140, and 147 (shrugs)
     
  12. sleepless

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    The Pacquiao that Mayweather beat minus the shoulder injury is still better than current era, but I agree that it's not a prime Pacquiao.

    The Canelo 23 year old that fought floyd is not the same as the matured strong as a bull version who fought Bivol. Floyd and Bivol style are not the same, Bivol's in and out combination punching style is in fact closer to a Pacquiao style than a Mayweather style.

    I remember Floyd had a chance to fight a prime Keith Thurman when Keith was the man in Welterweight at that point, but he went for Berto instead.
     
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  13. BoxingIQ

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    This is my entire point. Let's take Vernon Forest at 147. Now, one could argue that Vernon would be a better version of Kell Brook in this era (which would rank him top 10 p4p in this era). But let's be real do we see Cotto, Madianna, Manny, and Marquez beating Vernon? I don't think so. Again, Vernon is a third tier 147 pounder and he would've been the best fighter that Floyd ever fought if they ever met.
     
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  14. Loudon

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    I know that. But against who?

    He looks to be a great fighter, but it’s not that hard to win a belt today is it.

    Adrien Broner was a world champ.
     
  15. BoxingIQ

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    That's my point. Floyd never took chances like Crawford, Haney, Canelo, Loma, and Spence