Douglas vs Tyson 2 1990

He was the best guy Tyson fought since Spinks. That is giving credit.

 

Tyson peaked in the Spinks bout.

It was all downhill for him after that.

 

I've just recently started checking out those pre-Mike Buster fights, very interesting stuff indeed!

 

I doubt Douglas could provide another night like he did in Japan, nor do I believe Tyson would be as unprepared the second time around. I like Tyson by KO.

 

Is that you Larry?
Is it true that you died upon impact when Shavers connectedd with that Monstrous overhand right, but somehow the punch was like a "tilt" in pinball, your life-clock went around several times, & upon hitting the canvas you were miraculously revived?

 

Very nice analyses as per usual SP.
Although I understand Tyson was cutting weight to come in at a decent size against Douglas. And getting worse than rocked in sparring.
He did not fry his system like Ali with thyroid medication, & he was not sick with Parkinson's Disease, but his energy was somewhat dissipated.
How much better he would have been at that time is a fair question.
I do believe he would be motivated enough by the loss to take Douglas out.

 

Very good "Newby Holmes". In a larger sense too; since you were reborn that night in 1979, you are really just 42 years old.
I know that is why you did so well into your supposed "50's".

However check you post-you put the response inside my quote, so it was hidden from view.
But even from the horse's mouth, [although in real (2nd) life you said differently] we cannot believe Cooney could hit quite as hard as Shavers!

 

You are the best!!!! Cooney hit me so hard I can’t post probably. The after effects still are with me till this day

 

Lightning never strikes twice......

Douglas had for one fight one time all the stars lined up including family tragedies as motivators against a disinterested slacked off in training Tyson who saw the fight as a pure foregone conclusion while banging paid for sex woman......literally til fight night........simply the right guy at the right time once upon a time in the east.

Douglas still had to get off the deck with a questionable count to get it done....

Douglas would never ever have the stars aligned again and never ever climb that hill again, period, end off...............in a immediate rematch he would have folded like a house of cards and thats why he refused it and took on the lightly regarded (at that time) undersized Holyfield in stead.......Proof ?............Holyfield fought the usual Douglas that showed up, no ifs or buts and that exact version would show up in a Tyson rematch and stopped in a couple of rounds max.

More proof ?

He could have another run to cash out against a shot Tyson years later almost guaranteed but it got derailed when he got waxed by Savereasy who a shot Tyson clipped in less than 30 seconds..................again, that is the REAL Douglas.

 

This seems kinda faulty logic bc it presumes Tyson would be motivated by the loss which I don't think fits his personality.

 

Yes that’s the real Douglas… but outside of the window where Buster, as an improving fighter, was beating Mike Williams, Trevor Berbick and Oliver McCall.

If you watch those fights, that were in the run up to the title fight in Tokyo, Douglas was consistently good.

Watch those fights. And with the advantage of hindsight it’s able to see a driven fighter who looks good enough to do what he did to Tyson.

 

Seen those fights...............Mike Williams was and is a nobody, Berbick was borderline shot or at least completely washed up and McCall was a pro sparring partner nobody cared about.......................McCall's claim to fame is landing a right with his eyes closed against a green mediocre chinned Lewis later but otherwise Mccall is and always will be a non factor.

The real Douglas quit against Tucker and Holyfield and the real Douglas would show up in a immediate rematch vs Tyson, he could never ever under any circumstances duplicate his first encounter..................Douglas is the quintessential flash in the pan.

 

not quite, Mike Williams had previously took an in shape Tim Witherspoon to a SD. You can’t knock him as a live opponent. That was his only loss going in against the improved Douglas. Here are highlights of Mike Williams resume:

• 1984 National Golden Gloves Super heavyweight champion
• Named The Ring magazine Prospect of the Year in 1986.
• According to Bill Cayton, Mike Williams once knocked down Mike Tyson in sparring.
• Starred as boxer Union Cane in Rocky V.

well Berbick was not washed up. There was no shame in being outpointed by Carl Williams, Trevor’s only loss since losing to Tyson. Truth Williams earned his shot at Tyson out of that. Yet After losing every round to Douglas, Berbick, then only 26-4, would win his next 7 fights. He looked strong on TV against Bobby Crabtree. And He beat Melvin Foster. Even Six years later, at the ripe old age of 42, Berbick was still going the distance with Lewis slayer Hasim Rahman. He was crazy by then, but nobody was knocking Berbick out.

McCall warned Tyson that Douglas was for real. That is well documented. Whatever you think of McCall he was certainly a live, youthful opponent fighting to win. McCall offered more competition for Douglas than a lot of the last men many of Tyson’s challengers fought in their previous fight before challenging Tyson.

perhaps not around the times he fought Holyfield or Tucker. But during that regular run of fights on the undercard of Tysons title fights, Douglas was beating live guys and getting good enough to do what he did. Berbick, McCall and Mike Williams were good enough to challenge Tyson.

 

Read about that questionable long count in here again what don’t people get if the ref counted faster Douglas was getting up! And the round was over either way by a few seconds. He followed the count!!!
And at 23 if Tyson was so out of his prime etc…. Damm he should have fought Cooney in Japan that night. Cooney would have really socked it to him