There's no evidence that the vastly experienced, ultra-defensive, low wear and tear, "retirement" and PED-enthusiast, non-weight cutting Mayweather was "faded" when a smaller and more aggressive Pacquiao with more fights was still a top welter at 40. Being in your 5th weight class at 36 (or in this case a 152 lbs catchweight) means little when you turned pro as a teenager, cutting to make 130. Mayweather was a stone lighter than the leaden-footed, weight-drained, green Canelo but was at least as tall and had a reach advantage.
He certainly didn't. If Canelo had learned it would've showed against bivol and he would've dealth with him, it's a myth. Canelo recently has fought guys who couldn't exploit his weaknesses guys like pbf and bivol could. If anything canelo has somewhat regressed he's surrounded by yes men he's more arrogant and fallen in love with bad habits because he was on top of the sport and was making it look easy.
Don't act like Canelo weighed 152 pounds when the bell rang. He weighed 165. Floyd wasn't close to that when the fight began.
Only thing you can take away from Floyd is Canelo was fighting Floyd on Floyds terms Somehow Canelo still managed to sneak in one of his judges though lel!
In a literal sense? Yes. And I'm not sure a 135lb version of Mayweather loses to the 147lb version. The younger version probably outworks him.
If you drain yourself excessively to make weight it doesn't matter how much you rehydrate, you're not going to perform at your best. Canelo has a heavy weight cutter at 154, having to lose an extra 2 lbs (his lightest weight since he was 20) was obviously intended to weaken him.
Canelo was the unified and ring champ at LMW you agenda having simpleton. He was also a top 10 ranked p4p fighter with over 40 fights yet agenda havers like you call the man green. Trolls like you will say anything to discredit guys they don't like and distort the truth when you see fit. You're not green with over 40 fights while being the ring champ dumbass. Is devin haney considered green? I sure didn't hear anyone saying that going into his fight with kambosos despite having fewer fights than canelo and being younger than canelo as well when he fought pbf. Trolls like you are trash and so easy to school and expose because you don't deal in facts only hate. Btw canelo weighed 165 in the ring against pbf. Enough with that drained **** you're an excuse maker who doesn't want to give credit when it's due.
If Haney is the P4P No.1 in 8 years with another 13 world title fights fighting at 154 then of course the version of Haney who fought Kambosos would be green by comparison. I don't know why this is such a hard concept for you simpletons to understand. Rehydrating 13 lbs after being weight drained to your lowest weight since you were 20 doesn't supersede the fact you were weight drained in the first place, you still won't perform at your best. That's the whole point of catchweights and rehydration clauses, to weaken the opponent.
Canelo wasn't drained and never said he was. He weighed 165 when he stepped in the ring with Floyd. He was the bigger man. I know people LOVE to say "catchweight" and all that garbage, like Floyd fought a "shriveled up" Canelo ... but the truth is, Canelo was a well into Super Middleweight when the bell rang. Floyd was not. Because when you say Floyd beat a "165-pound Canelo" ... that makes Floyd beating him more impressive, so they have to act like there was something "wrong" with Canelo. There wasn't. He just got outboxed. Same against Bivol.
In bivol's "schooling" there was a HUGE size component. It wasnt like that in mayweather's schooling.
Drained is what oscar was against pac when they fought he couldnt even put on weight on fight night and needed an IV, Canelo was not a corpse he was not a zombie he rehydrated to 165 many fighters do this. Look at oscar he was drained against pac and couldn't move and couldn't pull the trigger Canelo wasn't, once again you dont know wtf youre talking about. You just want an excuse period. Haney wasn't considered green now or in 10 years from now, what happens down the road is irrelevant troll. You could say he was young but Haney wasn't green. Was pbf green when he became the lineal champ at 130 when he beat hernandez at 21? He went on to be p4p #1. Like I said earlier the same agenda havers who call canelo green a guy with over 40 fights and unified and ring champ never called guys like teo green when he fought loma or Haney green when he fought kambosos despite them being younger with fewer fights than canelo had when he fought pbf. Funny how that works, funny how easy it is to expose them and you.
"You just want an excuse period." Mayweather wasn't confident about fighting Canelo at 154 due to his struggles at that weight in the past so he wanted to drain him an extra 2 lbs to his lightest weight since he was 20. Why is that a hard concept for a fanboy to understand? Like Canelo later on, Mayweather wanted to stack the deck in his favour. You can point to fighters that suffered more from the weight draining but it doesn't change the fact that Canelo was intentionally drained. Are you denying that the 152 catchweight was a ploy to drain Canelo? Was it to drain Mayweather instead? Canelo's dozens of fights against roadsweepers in Mexico do not amount to the experience he gained from fighting Mayweather, Lara and GGG multiple times, let alone everyone else post-Mayweather. If you think that a fighter can practice his craft for another 8 years at the top, moving toward his physical, technical and experiential prime and not improve significantly then you don't understand boxing. Fighters do not remain static across time and the 152 lbs 23 year old 7 title fight Canelo would obviously get destroyed by the 175 lbs 31 year old 20 title fight Canelo.
Geale would have been a lot heavier than 157 lbs when he stepped in the ring with Cotto but he was still badly drained. Cutting that extra 2-3 lbs when you're already a big cutter is going to take something out of you, which is obviously why Mayweather wanted the catchweight. Who was it going to benefit when Mayweather didn't have to do any cutting to make 152? Having these sneaky A-side advantages, hindering the opponent with excess weight cutting or rehydration clauses tarnishes the victory.
Pretty excuses canelo weighed one pund less than he did against Trout 153 for Trout and 152 for pbf. Oh man look he's drained lmfao!!! The guy proceeds to come into the ring as a super middleweight at 165 he wasn't drained excuse maker he was fine. He was simply outboxed and beaten clearly. Also Canelo was more accomplished than either Haney or teo when he fought pbf and when Haney fought kambosos and when teo fought loma. If canelo learned so much from pbf and improved so drastically then why did he struggle with Lara and couldn't figure out bivol? I'll tell you why because he wasn't fighting guys with exceptional jabs speed who could move be defensively responsible and get in and out on him. Canelo hasn't really improved he's gotten stronger but his feet have not improved his same flaws are still there guys like pbf Lara and bivol were able to exploit them hell even plant and kovalev did in spurts. Casuals like you don't know what the hell you're watching in the ring you see him go right through guys lailormade for him and you call it improvement. Canelo is a great fighter but he has certain stylistic threats that will always make him look bad and he will struggle with.