Sugar Ray Robinson - Greatest of all time? For ALL time?

So because you haven't seen Greb, you know that he wasn’t on the same level as Robinson? This makes zero sense.

Being ignorant is a form of knowledge.

 

Because I have never seen greb I cant say that he's at the same level as robinson. Yes. It's very easy to understand, believe me.

And since no-****ing-living-body has watched him fighting in this earth, nobody can say that.

People saying "greb is #1" are monkeys the same way people saying "castillo won that fight" are. Monkeys say, monkeys do, and no freaking monkeys with ****ing clue.

 

Putting SRR and Greb is an insult? Really man? To you it's an insult, but to every credible boxing experts and historian that actually knows the sport that point is valid. Just because you haven't seen videos with your own eyes doesn't make Greb any less of a great fighter, taking into account that he's beaten several HOF/ATG level fighters and that he was always outsized..
I can understand only having SRR as the GOAT, but to say that it's an insult to have Greb in the same league is an insult itself because you are not willing to acknowledge greatness from further back and you want ignore the reason why he's considered on that level.

 

which credible boxing experts? which ones? if the only boxing experts who watched him fighting are dead since 40 years ago.

Plus I dont believe any expert, I believe my ****ing eyes. Nothing else. NOTHING.

 

Sugar Ray ducked my boys from the row.

 

this is self righteous garbage. You very obviously don't have the boxing education or acumen to question or doubt any former experts, dead or alive. You've always been closer to a troll than someone to take serious....

 

Some lying ******* in an newspaper, whose way of living is TO LIE because that's what journalists do, tell me that harry greb is the best since sliced bread. And I have to believe it without any other proof. On top of that, everything happening in an era where professional fighters trained at the tavern drinking wishky by galons and smoking like chimneys. And I have to believe some idiot born in 18XX writing that greb is the best he has ever seen. I have only one thing to say, "you have not seen great thing, **** off".

 

talk for yourself. That's the first thing you should start doing.

Do I have to believe lederman's card in mayweather vs castillo? just because "he is an expert"? the card of a drunk idiot. that's what it is.

I dont mind if you guys have no clue about the sport and you prefer believing experts. I believe NO ****ING EXPERT in boxing. I believe my eyes, PERIOD.

 

Do I need to give you a list? Your close minded, ignorant view is what's really insulting.
Notice how I also didn't say that Greb was greater than SRR, I only said that they are both equal in terms of greatness and yet you're taking full offense to it.

 

you are all monkeys, or parrots. "greb! greb! greb!!"

- Have you ever watched him fighitng?
- greb, grep, greb, greb....


Parrots. No wonder why you all injected 4 shots of crap in your bodies. No wonder at all.

 

He is and can`t see anyone beating him in my lifetime

 

yes, I want that list. Give me the list of the experts who are alive and watched him fighting.

 

He was very gangster.

How gangster?
Robinson won the 1939 featherweight and 1940 lightweight Golden Gloves titles.
Then he turned pro.
He went 40-0 being kept away from the welterweight crown due to the mafia business at the time for quite a few years since he should have gotten his chance.
He beat lightweight champ Sammy Angott easy and didnt get a deserved title opportunity early in his career.
He was gangster enough to rematch LaMotta 3 weeks after losing to him.
He finally got his much deserved title shot 6 years into hos career and won the welterwight title.he only defended the title 4-5 times but never really came close to losing it before moving up 3 and a half years later.
He was gangster enough to win it from LaMotta via stoppage.
He went 128-1-2 in the span before losing it to Turpin,the loss being avenged 5 times and one of the draws being avenged via 1st rd KO.
After he lost the title he immediately won it back in stunning fashion 2 months later.
He moved up to light heavy and we all onow he had a bit of bad luck to not get that belt aswell.
He really ahould have been 3 weight world champion in the 8 weight 1 champion era.Which is really a big accomplishment.
In his comeback he was hot and cold but he gave some stunning moments knocking out Oldon for the title as the underdog in december 55 and Fullmer in may 57.
His title win vs Basilio in march 58 was great aswell.
Of his 19 losses 16 came in his comeback while clearly past it and he avenged 2 of 3 in his prime.
Absolute legend.

 

You're literally having a mental breakdown with your name calling. You seriously need to calm down and seek help.

 

the list, please