Roy Jones Jr vs Smoking Joe Frazier, Prime for Prime, 15 rounds.

Jones did not hit as hard as Ali, who sometimes sat down on his punches.
Jones would have no relistic shot here.

 

But Richard…I’m talking about you saying his prime was short, saying he didn’t have longevity on his side . It’s not about how highly…or not… we rate him as a heavyweight fighter. I never mentioned how many Heavyweights he beat.
You said he was very skilled in a short period of time…if that’s your opinion it’s an uneducated one. As I said…he was unbeaten in 15 years from aged 20-35, so how is that a short period of time? Whatever yours or my feeling is about Roy Jones Junior’s abilities, don’t let your opinions get in the way of facts. The facts are that RJJ’s prime/longevity/skills lasted through 3 decades, they weren’t brief and they weren’t fleeting.

 

I apologise. He “lost” to Montell Griffin by getting disqualified after hitting him when he was on one knee. So technically he wasn’t unbeaten in 15 years. But he didn’t lose on point or by KO/TKO for 15 years. My bad

 

Splendid bout for time being. That being said, at some point Roy gets Foster'ed.

 

Not in a million years, he was too slow of a starter and Roy was too fast.
Frazier's obviously the favorite, but he's gonna have to wait for Roy to get tired.

 

Yes I hear you and agree regarding his brief stint at Heavyweight. He obviously chose John Ruiz because let’s face it, he would probably have been destroyed by Lennox Lewis or Vitali Klitschko or whoever the other title holder was. I admit that as much as I admire RJJ, I’m not blind to his limitations, even when he was at his best.
He wanted to make history, and once he did it he moved back down and he for some reason wasn’t the same again.
But he had a good run,..I just wish he retired after the Ruiz fight.
I’ve been watching boxing since I was a kid in the 70s, but I knew more and appreciated boxing a lot more from the 1980s.
Thanks for the compliment and I hope we have more debates in the future. I love a good boxing debate

 

Much respect to you. You would’ve seen Ali at his peak. I saw him in the 70s and my dad always said that despite his huge success in that decade, he was not the same fighter he was before being banned in 67. My dad says the 1960s Ali would never have lost to Frazier or Norton. What do you think?

 

A knowledgeable and good historical response. Thanks

 

John, THE “Don’t do something, just stand there”, MAN Ruiz has sooo much to answer for!

Let Frazier get to Ruiz before Roy actually did, thereby removing the root problem.

In the REAL world, Roy doesn’t dare sign to fight Smok’n’ Joe.