Cruiserweight and Heavyweight thread.

You could also turn it the other way and say name one fighter putting their hand up to fight Wallin.....

 

Wallin is just being propped up as some world beater by Fury fans, because Fury's resume is paper thin.

 

I think Wallin is someone people aren't rushing to fight. This is not because he's some diamond in the rough elite fighter, but he's a southpaw who isn't horrible, who though he lost to Fury put up more resistance than people thought he would (ala Tom Schwartz), won some rounds off of Tyson and had him stunned and in trouble in the 12th. I had Fury clearly winning their fight, but Tyson's stock did not rise here, Wallin's did.

 

Oh don't bring this rubbish in here, we have enough threads across the board with those silly triangle theories.

 

So tell us all about the great wins wallin has scored.

 

You can clearly see it from a handful of big Fury fanatics. If you can't see it you are fooling yourself.

 

Justis Huni triuphed by 10 round UD over former sparring partner, Joe Goodall. Scores were 100-90, 98-92, 98-93. Huni's relative lack of power compared to Goodall didn't mean much as Huni heavily outlanded Goodall throughout. This was very much a toe-to-toe affair with little in the way of jabbing. Huni moves to 6-0-0 (4 KOs).

 

I've read the other posts on Huni's next opponent. But I can't seem to get past Lucas Browne being the fight that domestic Australian mainstream media would latch onto and elevate into a bigger than otherwise event. He has the name recognition to an extent and the optics. The win over Fa makes it all the more interesting.

What would be the mechanics behind making this fight?

 

Paper thin resume? This is scarcely even worth comment on. But fine. Here are the highlights:

• Wlad (by dominant UD) - winning 3 of the 4 major belts
  
• Wilder 2x (twice by stoppage) - winning & defending the WBC belt. And many of us regard the "Draw" as a robbery.
• Dillain Whyte by stoppage
  
• Chisora twice - including by stoppage - when Chisora was in his prime

You can make reasonable arguments that AJ and Usyk have better resumes (the latter by virtue of stopping the former despite his smaller size) - but Fury's is certainly not paper-thin.

 

Dean Lonergren - Huni's promoter (and former co-promoter of Joseph Parker) - immediately commented on how preposterous it was that Demsey McKean had higher rankings than Huni beased on what he perceived as McKean's easy opposition. He suggested that Eddie Hearn would never risk putting McKean in the ring with Huni.

So, apparently Lonergran is attempting to bait Hearn into making a fight with McKean.

 

Fury could easily have a much better resume if he hadn't swerved a Wlad rematch, Price, Ustinov, Thompson, Haye, etc. Instead he called out and chased after Pajkic, and guys like Schwartz, Abell, Pianeta, etc. dominant ud over wlad is something only a delusional brit could claim. it was a garbage fight decided by a handful of pitty pat jabs. Whyte was already exposed by a shot 42 year old Povetkin. Chisora never had a prime, unless you consider being a prime loser.

 

Lucas Browne has stated that he's only going to be taking fights if the money is right.. I think Lucas has more pull and better chance to earn more overseas so I doubt that he'll fight Huni anytime soon.

If it was to happen though, the only mechanics for it to happen is to give Lucas his asking price.

 

He didn't "swerve" a Wlad rematch. He went on a 12 month drug & alcohol fueled bender. Do you think Wlad would have been any better in a 2nd fight at aged 40+? Time only moves in one direction.

Whyte was dominating Povetkin when he got caught. He avenged that stoppage loss with one of his own.

Thompson was on PEDs. Of course Fury avoided him. Everybody avoided him until Thompson cleaned up...whereupon Luis Ortiz promptly stopped him.

Haye had already retired in 2012 - before Fury was a force. If you are talking about David's chit chat in 2016-2017 about wanting a fight with Fury after Tyson was stripped of his belts - then this is ridiculous. Haye's body had betrayed him. He was financially-overextended and needed money. He got it, of course, by getting beaten up by a puffed-up cruiserweight. Twice. So if Fury had fought him then...this would be of what value exactly?

Chisora went the distance with Vitali in 2011 and even took a few rounds off him. Hardly a useless fighter...which is more than you can say for David Price.

The fight with Wlad sucked - but Wlad couldn't land anything on him and didn't try anything more than pitty pat jabs, himself.

Messing around with Pianeta, etc. enabled Fury to look less dangerous than he was and that probably enabled him to get that first Wilder fight.

 

Thompson was om peds but Fury wasn't?????????? Price definitely is better than the guys Fury fought instead.

 

Cunningham is pretty legit as well.